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Seasonal Forecasts for upcoming growing season

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  • AlbertaFarmer5
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 12561

    #11
    Helmsdale, I'm sure you follow these forecasts much closer than I do. Considering your risk of drought.
    How is their track record from past years?
    I followed Environment Canada's seasonal forecast for enough years to establish that they were a very reliable contrarian indicator, then gave up.

    At this point, I am looking forward to an easier spring, with less snow, and less soil moisture, but that all could change in a hurry yet.

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    • helmsdale
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 2129

      #12
      AF5, I'd say like most things, they are probably reasonably close to predicting the "larger picture." In this area, one or maybe two stray 4 mile wide thunderstorms in July can be the difference between an average and above average crop.

      I'ts the trend that I try to look for though. They can predict a hot dry growing season as far out as august/september of the previous year, but seldom does the prediction made that early really mean much. From about december I start paying attention, and if they are calling for hot/dry but the trend is lessening, there's a good chance that by the time the growing season arrives, it looks nothing like what they had predicted a year out.

      That said...
      -the trend is not working in our favour the last three months as far as these seasonal outlooks go.
      and,
      -Drew is certainly hinting heavily that this upcoming growing year may not be particularly favorable. In his typical fashion though, he never outright says you'll be SOL, and figures there is a decent chance at early spring moisture.

      In your's, Makar's, and Sheep's area, this could possibly be good news?

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      • beaverdam
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2018
        • 1451

        #13
        EC temp May-July

        https://weather.gc.ca/saisons/image_e.html?img=s456pfe1t_cal&bc=prob https://weather.gc.ca/saisons/image_e.html?img=s456pfe1t_cal&bc=prob

        EC Percp May-July

        https://weather.gc.ca/saisons/image_e.html?img=s456pfe1p_cal&bc=prob https://weather.gc.ca/saisons/image_e.html?img=s456pfe1p_cal&bc=prob

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        • helmsdale
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 2129

          #14
          New EC seasonal forecast out today.

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          • Old Cowzilla
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2020
            • 1592

            #15
            Dry years in the 80's a thunderstorm would show up a few lightning strikes and high winds for ten mins. followed by 10 raindrops . The show would be over except for one of the few haybales you were able to make would be burning behind the house yard.

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            • redleaf
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 381

              #16
              Originally posted by Old Cowzilla View Post
              Dry years in the 80's a thunderstorm would show up a few lightning strikes and high winds for ten mins. followed by 10 raindrops . The show would be over except for one of the few haybales you were able to make would be burning behind the house yard.

              I remember one of those little storms going directly over my yard. It came out of east and headed west, lightning bolts shooting out and making all kinds of noise. It was like one of those clouds that show up and nail the coyote in a roadrunner cartoon. Not one drop of rain. Never saw one like it before or since and likely never will

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              • furrowtickler
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 22010

                #17
                Originally posted by redleaf View Post
                I remember one of those little storms going directly over my yard. It came out of east and headed west, lightning bolts shooting out and making all kinds of noise. It was like one of those clouds that show up and nail the coyote in a roadrunner cartoon. Not one drop of rain. Never saw one like it before or since and likely never will
                Seen a few of those in 2001 and 2002
                Just would not rain regardless of any cold front .

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                • helmsdale
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 2129

                  #18


                  Winter forecast didnt necessarily hold up. Perhaps the summer wont either.

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                  • Old Cowzilla
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2020
                    • 1592

                    #19
                    -29 yesterday morn -5 this morn tractors should turn over a lot better would be good if I have to push wet snow away from feed bunks a couple of times. Can't believe I said that but it's true.

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                    • helmsdale
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 2129

                      #20
                      New NOAA outlooks today. More of the same.

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                      The latest outlook continues to trend western North America Drier and Warmer this summer in every successive outlook of the last three months. The dry "blob" is possibly shifting somewhat further south, as Id suspect the drought conditions in the US south and west are likely going to impact future weather patterns.

                      See current drought map of Continental US:
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