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  • errolanderson
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 3157

    Plunging Palm Oil

    Noticeable drop in Malaysian palm oil prices over the past ten (10) days. Palm prices heaved more than 10% last week and nearly another 3% overnight. China buyer demand appears weakening.
  • farming101
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 3956

    #2
    Canola limit move is $30, then $45, then $60.
    No saying that a limit move is coming, but today's move shows that volatility is kicking in.
    There are some very profitable positions that speculators will want to realize on.
    I look forward with interest to next weekend's COT report

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    • errolanderson
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 3157

      #3
      Originally posted by farming101 View Post
      Canola limit move is $30, then $45, then $60.
      No saying that a limit move is coming, but today's move shows that volatility is kicking in.
      There are some very profitable positions that speculators will want to realize on.
      I look forward with interest to next weekend's COT report
      What a terrific rally for growers to price cash canola into whether old or new crop . . . .

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      • farming101
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 3956

        #4
        I will speculate that the prices will not fade too far at this point in time.

        There is this little matter of soil moisture reserves...and empty storage bins.
        Yes there is snow on the ground but good crops need rains to germinate after seeding and rains in June to make them grow and good soil moisture to get the crop to harvest.
        As the saying goes, we don't manage weather, we watch it
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        • AlbertaFarmer5
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 12607

          #5
          How far could soybean oil drop, or canola Before it does technical damage to the trend ?

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          • furrowtickler
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 22283

            #6
            Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
            What a terrific rally for growers to price cash canola into whether old or new crop . . . .
            Yes it was , for some of the crop
            Hopefully it stays well above $12
            Land , machinery and inputs take a huge chunk nowadays for those of us farming .
            $10 was a complete joke with very low stocks .... back over a year
            But yup it has been a decent opportunity for some crop pricing .

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            • malleefarmer
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 5424

              #7
              The whole grain complex at moment driven by russia taxes, weather nh dry weather sa maybe wet.

              Tonnes of all commodities roughly known.

              To me whole market is getting skittish. Wheat barley canola beans corn.

              Gonna need bad news weekly to keep it going

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              • furrowtickler
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 22283

                #8
                Originally posted by malleefarmer View Post
                The whole grain complex at moment driven by russia taxes, weather nh dry weather sa maybe wet.

                Tonnes of all commodities roughly known.

                To me whole market is getting skittish. Wheat barley canola beans corn.

                Gonna need bad news weekly to keep it going
                I think you may very well right

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                • malleefarmer
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 5424

                  #9
                  Went to bed last night at 10.30;i think wheat was up 15 everything else red.

                  I thought wow if wheat powers through tonight it could blow off but of course didnt hahppen

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                  • errolanderson
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 3157

                    #10
                    An opinion, but I have seen this type of market action in my career many times as a trader.

                    When a bull market eventually goes into a dive, emotion runs high. We have all heard this before . . . the greed, hope, fear, panic cycle of a market. Market emotion drives this. We are all human.

                    Long liquidation triggers as calls for cash (margin calls) force selling. But remember the specs in the market classically drive prices too high in a bull market. They can also provide a grower better-than-expected returns through heated bull markets.

                    Once this selling exhausts itself, a market may correct itself technically rebounding between 50 to 66% of the drop. Smoke and mirrors you say . . . . But for the market to actually flare to new highs once again takes a tankful of fresh bullish gas (news) to achieve. This is not impossible, but rare.

                    But you say . . . there is little canola left in the bin. True. But demand is king in any commodity market, not supply. Supply can be dead tight into crop year end, but if demand fades, prices can still drop.

                    The key straight ahead is the health of demand . . . and the new factor on-the-watch will be spring/summer weather.

                    In other words, we are likely to continue to see price volatility. All the best in your marketing.

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