is the free ride over for grid tied solar?

[SASKFARMER]

**** me chuck now you want to monitor which farmers plug in the tractor and which don't.

Are you applying for Trudeau's new position to be an inspector gadget of farms and give us situations and fines.

Its coming and idiots like chuck will be the inspector.

you built that and didn't have an engineer or design done by a gov company you get a fine and you get a fine.

Chuck would be the inspector coming.

Think about it.

[chuckChuck]

Just woke up, and noticed not much has changed or been learned in many months in regards grid tied solar energy.
But there is some progress being made in the development of a "carbon neutral" electrical energy injected into the Sask power grid (certainly not more widely known as cogeneration and flare gas electrical generation) The meter on the installation. commissioned the first week of July 2020 read some 21000 Kwh of "delivered" and 4 Kwh "received" a couple days ago. That will have increased by 5500+ watts continuous production (basically each and every intervening hour) without regard to time of day, temperature, hours of sunlight or other variable weather conditions). That's a 120/240V single phase system; and the reason the "received" reading is so low is that the grid is only used as an emergency backup supply.
Some might consider a three phase inspector/3rd party certified approved equipment/with provincial power grid blessing and even a smart meter to be a little more impressive. That's 3 phase production of a continuous 13000 watts at 208V. These inverters are rated for 6000 watts each, but I'm not that greedy and can't see the sense of maximizing an approved energy production that has been donated for free.
Please don't make me feel bad by insinuating this energy is being produced in time periods of limited useful demand....as that would indicate that a record of 5 months (first week of July to the present date)
does not have a smaller outage time than those connected to the provincial grid.
From a personal point of view; it would't be smart to argue against peak time of use charges.....but that's pretty immaterial when there is no way to get paid for any excess production (in the first place).

Using flared gas for electricity and cogeneration is an excellent use of otherwise wasted flare gas. I am just not sure why the province doesn't require all flared gas from the oil patch be put to good use instead of being burned off in flares that are a source of pollution?

But how is burning natural gas carbon neutral? Where does the emitted carbon dioxide go?

[chuckChuck]

**** me chuck now you want to monitor which farmers plug in the tractor and which don't.

Are you applying for Trudeau's new position to be an inspector gadget of farms and give us situations and fines.

Its coming and idiots like chuck will be the inspector.

you built that and didn't have an engineer or design done by a gov company you get a fine and you get a fine.

Chuck would be the inspector coming.

Think about it.

So SF do you leave your tractors and equipment plugged in all day? Even when you are in Florida? LOL

[TASFarms]

Using flared gas for electricity and cogeneration is an excellent use of otherwise wasted flare gas. I am just not sure why the province doesn't require all flared gas from the oil patch be put to good use instead of being burned off in flares that are a source of pollution?

But how is burning natural gas carbon neutral? Where does the emitted carbon dioxide go?

Not hard to figure out why gas goes to flare. There isn’t enough dollars in gas produced to even cover the cost of putting a line in. Gas production declines.

[tweety]

Very simple Tweety, people like yourself and Chuck2 promote switching to electricity over fossil fuels as a technological advancement and that electricity generated by renewables is cheaper than fossil fuels. What I am pointing out is that for certain applications such as home heating this assertion is false. As far as my cattle waterers go when it is -30 there is no replacement for electric heat elements in my opinion. I do add extra insulation to increase the efficiency and reduce chances of them freezing up.

"Switching" isn't what this discussion about. It's about using more power when cheaper alternative renewable energies are plentiful and paying less for it and changing your habits to do so. You've made it abundantly clear that any sort of innovation is not your wheelhouse.

[oneoff]

For those who demand one line summaries
Potential 24/7/52 wk continuous production (specifically documented/based on last/any future 24 hour period) showing close to 300 Kwh accumulation of actual exported electrical energy from two "small Net Metering" projects; which with availability of a commercially approved inverter would allow an easily doubling of this sites prod'n. And the waste heat from genset and associated generation of all additional power needs of two substantial farm sites has not been specifically mentioned.

Wouldn't all fit in one line, but so what..

[chuckChuck]

Not hard to figure out why gas goes to flare. There isn’t enough dollars in gas produced to even cover the cost of putting a line in. Gas production declines.

Most of it is associated gas that arrives at batteries with oil. If there isn't a gas line at the battery to sell it then you can use on site electrical generation in many cases similar to what oneoff is talking about.

[rumrocks]

So SF do you leave your tractors and equipment plugged in all day? LOL

Think of the computers that are left running overnight in offices worldwide, wasting electricity.
Do you shut your computers down at night, Chuck.

. . . . . Yes, most of the time I shut down.

[Hamloc]

"Switching" isn't what this discussion about. It's about using more power when cheaper alternative renewable energies are plentiful and paying less for it and changing your habits to do so. You've made it abundantly clear that any sort of innovation is not your wheelhouse.

So in your mind it would be innovative if I install battery storage on my farm so I could purchase more electricity during the day at a lower price to be used at night so that I don’t have to pay a higher price for electricity during peak demand periods. So really you want me to take my capital and spend it to compensate for bad decisions made by government in relation to electrical generation policy, fml!

[burnt]

So in your mind it would be innovative if I install battery storage on my farm so I could purchase more electricity during the day at a lower price to be used at night so that I don’t have to pay a higher price for electricity during peak demand periods. So really you want me to take my capital and spend it to compensate for bad decisions made by government in relation to electrical generation policy, fml!

Yes, cuz "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you".