Proof of vaccination

[Blaithin]

I was reading an article this morning I believe in the Huffpost that in Ontario you will be given a certificate that you have been vaccinated for covid-19. The Ontario government is not making vaccinations mandatory but if you are not vaccinated your access to certain public facilities will be restricted. So yeah no mandatory vaccination but if you refuse you become a second class citizen. Then I was reading an article in the National Post on Justin Trudeau’s half brother Kyle Kemper. He has a somewhat different view of the world than his older brother. Interesting quote was we are in a battle between “authoritarianism and libertarianism”, certainly applies to the Ontario government’s position on vaccines imo. FYI I am not an anti-vaxxer in any sense of the word, in my opinion the covid-19 vaccine with its forced quick development and the need to be stored at -75 C or whatever temperature makes me nervous. There have been times when I have let a vaccine for my cattle get to warm or forgot it in the cooler overnight. What happens to the covid vaccine if someone screws up with storage protocols?

I’m of the mind to just sit back and see how a large population deals with the vaccine for the immediate future. I don’t think it’s a big deal, I’m probably incredibly low on the list of people in line to get it anyway. So other countries get it slightly ahead of us and other people get it ahead of me and if I’m still feeling like waiting a bit I can’t go to places I don’t go to anyway...

It’s ok to me for now.

It’s not that I think the vaccine is bad or harmful, it just doesn’t have the decades behind it of all the other ones I’ve had. Nor am I high risk from Covid. Ive also never had the flu shot, not because I don’t trust it but it hasn’t been necessary, I don’t hang out in high risk places or with high risk people.

[jazz]

You cant make this up even in this clown world we live in. So if someone dies from the virus, the comorbidities are not taken into account.

And if someone dies after taking the vaccine, the vaccine and the same commorbities are not taken into account. In fact we can expect it to happen. Wonder if the media will scroll those deaths across the screen on the hour.

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https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_f57704265a0db9708053b6eb5320dd44 From CNN;

But there is also reason for concern. The Covid-19 vaccines have not been tested in the frail elderly, many of whom are residents of long-term care facilities.

"Since they haven't been studied in people in those populations, we don't know how well the vaccine will work for them. We know that most vaccines don't work nearly as well in a frail elderly person as they would in someone who is fit and vigorous, even if they happen to be the same age," Moore said.

"There's a question about the direct benefit of the vaccine, if given to people who live in those facilities, because we haven't studied how well it works in that group yet."

It's this uncertainty that led Talbot to vote no.

"I have spent my career studying vaccines in older adults. And we have traditionally tried a vaccine in a young healthy population and then hoped it works in our frail older adults," she told the committee ahead of her vote. "And so we enter this realm of 'we hope it works, and we hope it's safe,' and that concerns me on many levels."

When shots begin to go into arms of residents, Moore said Americans need to understand that deaths may occur that won't necessarily have anything to do with the vaccine.

"We would not at all be surprised to see, coincidentally, vaccination happening and then having someone pass away a short time after they receive a vaccine, not because it has anything to do with the vaccination but just because that's the place where people at the end of their lives reside," Moore said.

"One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes."

[agstar77]

The greatest benefit of the vaccine will be herd immunity if 70% buy in. If cases don't come down and hospitalizations don't decrease there will be comorbidity of those waiting for life saving treatment.

[Taiga]

Agstar is first in line.

[TSIPP]

I can’t go near a horse, I definitely can’t go near the Covid vaccine.

[agstar77]

Cov-idiots back of the line.

[MBgrower]

Are these mRNA vaccines considered GMO free? It not i would never take it, GMO is bad!

[fjlip]

Are these mRNA vaccines considered GMO free? It not i would never take it, GMO is bad!

I guess woke rich people that only eat Organic and Non- GMO vegetarian will ALL REFUSE based on their superior intelligence and FEAR of GMO anything!

Lots of extra vaccines will be GARBAGED but paid for.

[tweety]

Are these mRNA vaccines considered GMO free? .....

Yes. Get Jazz to explain why.

[flea beetle]

Cov-idiots back of the line.

I am sure they will gladly go to the back of the line, and watch how the ones beating their chest that the vaccine is the be all, end all will react to the "vaccine"