Lentil genetics paid for with farmer check offs were gifted to other nations...

[SASKFARMER]

The pulse board is the worst as far as I am concerned. Free money from us stupid farmers to do as they please.

[westernvicki]

125 varieties released royalty free for the up front funding total of 42 million. Over 25 years.
Was it a good deal for farmers? What is/has the pulse industry meant to SK farmers? Some years sales of Pulse crops have been in the billions...

This thread is very misleading. No genetics were ‘given ’away. Read it. The Genome Canada project was about developing a model to determine which characteristics of a cultivar make it suitable for certain growing conditions.
And news flash, plant breeders all over the world have various reciprocal agreements for sharing germ plasm. How else do you introduce improvements? GM not being done in pulses (in Canada) so it’s crosses and back crosses.
Not sure what the motivation behind this thread is. Whatever. Not my issue any longer. Just be good to seek out some facts before jumping to conclusions Reply With Quote

MY REPONSE
OK you have have be blanking kidding me...

This response speaks to the ignorance about, the long run trial and error process of defining and selecting varieties & traits to suit various climatic adaptations, which is intellectual property, housed in a variety, and the pace of the knowledge gap transfer, which this project has undoubted accelerated for our competitors.


Indeed, various reciprocal agreements for sharing germ plasm is indeed a valid, the world trades germ plasm but germ plasm is the platform for building a new variety not the variety.


The fact the University wishes to be benevolent and fund a large travel and research budget and plots all over the world to screen and assist the globe in the process of selecting from our pool of proven varieties those suitable to grow in environments around the world to solve issues of climate change, this is their prerogative as an academic, but find donors like Bill Geates please. I prefer you not fund this from my lunch as a producer.

Call me selfish UPCHUCK, but indeed as Russia & China open more land, & spend billions on agricultural innovation from genetics to logistics, including artificial intelligence we need to ask what is our long term vision for the industry in western Canada to remain profitable given our geographical disadvantage to markets.

And no its not the same as a container load of lentils becoming seed, which was a defense given to me.
Good grief, assisting, funding the rapid transfer of technological advances farmers and tax payers paid for by in genetics is like China & Russia giving away AI secrets. I will wait for this.



Oh my. Who gives away trade secrets, we do. Who pays to give away the trade secrets, apparently we do. And we are very good at it.

And if you want to spend money on plots to prove performance please improve variety testing for producers in Saskatchewan.


This whole issue speaks to the lack of vision; the blind are leading.

[chuckChuck]

The research that you are so up in arms about is going to help Saskatchewan farmers as well by improving varieties for Saskatchewan. Variety development is always ongoing as every crop needs to enhance disease resistance and other characteristics through continued breeding programs.

We have benefited greatly from a shared genetic resource.

Farmers in Saskatchewan who grow pulse crops are doing very well relative to farmers in many parts of the world.

[bucket]

I just finished reading an article about a wrench being thrown into the Lentil market because its better to send the containers back to China empty than wait for them to be filled here...


Good thing we can grow good varieties with disease resistance and spray the hell out of them....but cant know what's going on in trying to convert the effort to cash...


No Mandatory sales reporting of our output is currently costing us more in losses on the farm ...

All the pulse processors that use containers will need a handout ...read that as AGT will be government tit sucking again...and they were given a railway and port facilities to Churchill to avoid this....

[chuckChuck]

Yeah we are going to have to stop buying so many consumer goods from China so that they don't need so many containers and then there will be some empty ones for food crops. Hapag is sending empties back empty to Asia to speed up the turn around for Chinese exports! What a stupid world we live in!

[bucket]

Yeah we are going to have to stop buying so many consumer goods from China so that they don't need so many containers and then there will be some empty ones for food crops. Hapag is sending empties back empty to Asia to speed up the turn around for Chinese exports! What a stupid world we live in!

The stupid part is what is the delay in Canada to refill them?

I see container on trains everyday I haul grain....they have to be taken of the vessel and put on a train and unloaded and then the procedure reverses.....somewhere in there there should be an opportunity to stuff a container in less than an hour and get it back to China. ..

Answer that riddle and you have an answer for solving the problem.

[wmoebis]

The stupid part is what is the delay in Canada to refill them?

I see container on trains everyday I haul grain....they have to be taken of the vessel and put on a train and unloaded and then the procedure reverses.....somewhere in there there should be an opportunity to stuff a container in less than an hour and get it back to China. ..

Answer that riddle and you have an answer for solving the problem.

When you deliver to the elevator where do they get cleaned for export? Do prairie high through puts clean them or are the most cleaned at port? In land terminals should have been licensed as terminals and had to follow terminal rules. They can and do the same work. Another screw up. IMHO.

[bucket]

When you deliver to the elevator where do they get cleaned for export? Do prairie high through puts clean them or are the most cleaned at port? In land terminals should have been licensed as terminals and had to follow terminal rules. They can and do the same work. Another screw up. IMHO.

My local will clean cereals...wheat and durum....everything else just gets loaded....


Sort of odd because they buy lentils and you can do a good job of cleaning them at the same settings as wheat...

[wmoebis]

My local will clean cereals...wheat and durum....everything else just gets loaded....


Sort of odd because they buy lentils and you can do a good job of cleaning them at the same settings as wheat...

Think they are scared of splits but I wonder how many are shipped with dockage in. Cleaned at end user the dockage would be very valuable for feed in those countries.