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    #46
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Did you forget agriculture in Canada also receive subsidies and tax breaks. Along with the oil and gas industry! Save Us the faux outrage fellas. You are a bunch of hypocrites! LMAO
    Can you highlight the agriculture subsidies. ?

    And then we could have a separate thread about the money sent to ag industries ...not farmers....that fall under the ag subsidies ...

    Then compare what the industries related to agriculture are getting compared to the individual farmer.
    Last edited by bucket; Sep 28, 2020, 08:55.

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      #47
      It’s interesting trump the constant liar just got caught again stating he made hundreds of millions one year and now in the tax returns he had a loss of 40 million. And then wonders why the tax people are auditing him. Lmao!

      But the not paying the taxes is only the one part of fraud he’s committing the more important part for is who he owes money to and therefore foregoing power to who in the world?
      Russia China we already know the saudis are bank rolling a number of his companies.

      This has serious implications for our ag products as well as oil industry.

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        #48
        Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
        Is this how some of you run your farming operations? I know I don't have any bill collectors knocking on the farm house door.
        Then you never built a asset heavy business from scratch then like Trump did. All such businesses have debts and some have to revolve that debt or term it and the bills eventually come due. How did you buy your land?

        He could have sat on his inheritance like Trudeau but instead he put it to work turning a few million into many multiples of that.

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          #49
          Originally posted by bucket View Post
          Can you highlight the agriculture subsidies. ?

          And then we could have a separate thread about the money sent to ag industries ...not farmers....that fall under the ag subsidies ...

          Then compare what the industries related to agriculture are getting compared to the individual farmer.
          Crop insurance premiums, ag invest, ag stability, fuel tax rebates, plant breeding and research etc. And some economists describe supply management industries and import tariffs as a subsidy which they are not in my opinion. I think with supply management included the OECD says Canadian farmers receive 8 or 9% of their income from subsidies. That may not be the correct number but we can sort out the details later. FCC as a government lender to farmers is also giving preferential treatment to farmers that may not be available from other sources in some cases. A form of support. There will be more examples because 10 provinces have there own ag programs and I don’t kNow them all. What are the combined federal provincial ag budgets less administration across Canada? That will give a pretty good idea what the subsidies and support to ag are except for tax incentives and rebates.

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            #50
            Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
            Trump is the model businessman that several Righties on Agriville aspire to.

            Donny has File for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy six times, and owes the Bank of China and Deutsche Bank $100s of million of dollars. Is this how some of you run your farming operations? I know I don't have any bill collectors knocking on the farm house door.


            Kinda ironic that China will eventually foreclose on Trump, I wonder how many Righties will be coming to defend Donald when that happens?
            What’s going to happen if Trump loses the election and Trudeau is propped up by the NDP for several more years? A lot of the Agriville righties are going to go bananas! “More” bananas I should say. If Trump is gone and the USA has a sane centrist Democrat at the helm who and what will the mal contents aspire to? Russia’s Putin is praised occcasionally by some of the mal contents. Trump admires him and his authoritarian rule. He poisons and jails his political opponents. I expect some of the righties will tell us how “great” Russia is! LOL
            Last edited by chuckChuck; Sep 28, 2020, 10:56.

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              #51
              Dml, Chuck is claiming to be some astute business person(s){he has adopted the unusual habit of referring to himself in the plural}. So he should be aware of a simple concept of ROI. What is the return on time invested of posting anti Trump stories on a Canadian forum in the lead up to the election?

              If Chuck, dml. Agstarr, bigwheel are building an old folks home in Saskatchewan, would they spend their entire marketing budget targeting high school kids in PEI?
              That is the equivalent of your current marketing strategy.
              Let's assume that there are a few American lurker on here, or posters who just don't admit their nationality, they just come to laugh at us for being so infatuated with their politics, and for the entertainment value of Chuck's ignorance. Is this really an effective way to spend your time, targeting an unknown and unknowable handful of potential voters on Agriville? You are running out of time to influence the US election, I am just politely suggesting your efforts might have a better payback elsewhere.
              But maybe like all of Chuck's campaigns (really, all socialist agendas), results aren't important, only the ideology.
              Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Sep 28, 2020, 12:36.

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                #52
                I dont expect to have any influence over American voters or Agriville posters who have closed minds! But it sure is fun to watch the Trump sheeple on Agriville squirm and tell us how great Trump and America are in the face of overwhelming evidence that he is a shister!

                And you are preaching to the choir! So what’s your end game? Wait for it! Is it keeping the Marxist’s at bay! LOL Kenney is thinking of a state owned provincial oil company to turn around Alberta’s oil dependent economy! Yikes! Desperate time’s call for desperate measures. That’s gotta hurt right in the middle of freedom loving, free market Alberta! You got your work cut out for you A5! There coming for you!
                Last edited by chuckChuck; Sep 28, 2020, 12:37.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Crop insurance premiums, ag invest, ag stability, fuel tax rebates, plant breeding and research etc. And some economists describe supply management industries and import tariffs as a subsidy which they are not in my opinion. I think with supply management included the OECD says Canadian farmers receive 8 or 9% of their income from subsidies. That may not be the correct number but we can sort out the details later. FCC as a government lender to farmers is also giving preferential treatment to farmers that may not be available from other sources in some cases. A form of support. There will be more examples because 10 provinces have there own ag programs and I don’t kNow them all. What are the combined federal provincial ag budgets less administration across Canada? That will give a pretty good idea what the subsidies and support to ag are except for tax incentives and rebates.
                  Crop insurance has a pretty big slush premium fund....

                  Agriinvest at 1 percent of ENS is hardly a subsidy

                  Agristabilty isn't working

                  Fuel tax rebates because or machinery doesnt operate on roads where the fuel tax is suppose to go

                  Research and development is being paid for by checkoff and higher seed costs...

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                    #54
                    Chuck your so full of shit.


                    Done end of discussion

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                      #55
                      Trump says it’s all fake news he’s paid lots of taxes he says. Nytimes have the documents and say otherwise.

                      This is a very important game now because he’s put his whole idea that everyone is lieing about me on the line. One of them is a liar! And I can’t say who it is until we see the documents but would the nytimes be that stupid? Maybe they are. I guess he has nothing to lose if he admits it then hurts his election chances if he says this then so what he controls the justice department he ll sue everyone and be able to make his millions of debt payments. Lol. Guy is maybe a genious after all.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by bucket View Post
                        Crop insurance has a pretty big slush premium fund....

                        Agriinvest at 1 percent of ENS is hardly a subsidy

                        Agristabilty isn't working

                        Fuel tax rebates because or machinery doesnt operate on roads where the fuel tax is suppose to go

                        Research and development is being paid for by checkoff and higher seed costs...
                        I didn’t say they were good programs did I? LOL. Whether they work well or not crop insurance premiums are paid for by the feds, provinces and farmers. It’s a subsidy. Agristabilty payments come from taxpayers except for a small fee to apply. That’s a subsidy!

                        Agri invest 1% of ENS matching deposit is a subsidy!

                        Check offs pay for a lot of research and variety development but Ag Canada And the provinces provide other research and development that doesn’t come from check offs.

                        My semi certainly drives on roads and burns road tax free diesel! What does your diesel truck and semis burn?

                        Agriculture in Canada is subsidized to some degree. We certainly don’t have the same levels of support that exists in The EU or the USA. But I am always amazed how free market farmers are always upset by the fact that they dont receive more subsidies and support like Trump gives his farmers to buy their votes! LOL

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                          #57
                          I wonder how the papers got this “information”. What about privacy?

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by bucket View Post
                            But think of how many he employed to accomplish such a feat and not be hauled in front of the IRS??????

                            They probably all paid their taxes...

                            Just some outside the box thinking...makes me laugh...

                            .I don't think Trump is the best thing going...but make no mistake....Biden is a far worse a bet...senile alzheimer patient without a doubt.
                            Thats what they want , same as here
                            Idiot at the top so that bureaucrat thieven bastards can carry on

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                              I wonder how the papers got this “information”. What about privacy?
                              Nearly every other politician at that level discloses their finances. It’s just being normal and upfront.

                              I think these were disclosed as he is being investigated for overstating his assets to get loans and understating them to get government help through programs. Not swamp like at all. Lol

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                                #60
                                Amazon paid zero taxes last 10 yrs, put hundreds of mom and pop shops out of business and uses the US postal office as its personal bitch.

                                netflix uses public broadband, wireless and fibre back bone to deliver movie content, pays no taxes.

                                NYT used anon sources again and found nothing illegal in the documents. Trump did nothing wrong. His accountants used the tax code that Biden and Obama wrote.

                                Canada has lots of shysters identified in the Panama papers including the guy who sells our bread and including a criminal corrupt Pm with an illegal foundation money laundering factory.

                                So spare me.
                                Last edited by jazz; Sep 28, 2020, 17:51.

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