Nature conservancy of Canada

[chuckChuck]

Yup I probably shouldn't graze to the creek but ducks unlimited dry the creek bed up and I like to graze it...if they want me to not graze it and fence it out ...well I need to be paid to stay out of the spring flood zone which is a substantial amount of acres. ...

I see lots of people grazing creek areas and causing lots of habitat loss in riparian areas and affecting water quality. We still have lots of people winter feeding near rivers and creeks which is even worse. There was money available for fencing riparian areas and putting in water systems under the environmental farm programs. Lots of farmers did the right thing and others not so much. I think the assumption is that because you own the land while you are alive you can do whatever you want with it, is wrong and short sighted. Especially when the impacts affect many others and can lead to long term negative impacts.

[bucket]

I think there is a lag time between habitat destruction and wildlife population decline, but it is real.

Some species adapt and some can't.

No loss of population they just move to better managed pastures like my neighbors cows ....

[chuckChuck]

And one man's habitat destruction is another animals new garden of eden.
If we travel west into the mountain parks, guaranteed to see more, far far more big game on the way past our own crop land than in the entire rest of the trip. Turns out there isn't much worth eating in a mature overgrown forest with no room for grass, but a canola crop is the height of luxury for a deer or moose.

The creek mentioned above, turns out the fish they are trying to protect were stocked there in the 30's. What's natural? Was that habitat destruction for some other species?

Except it’s not up to you or I to decide what is the right way to manage what is a public resource and A shared environment. That’s the responsibility of all stakeholders not just landowners. That’s why we have federal, provincial rules and regulations and municipal bylaws.

[farmaholic]

Burrowing owls, "bush" rabbits, other ground nesting birds. Even fewer jack rabbits here than before. Clear bush and fewer tree nesting raptors. Deer have held up quite well...too well actually lately. More moose here than ever before, now kinda permanent. Mink mostly unseen. Muskrat come and go with water levels. Really no beaver here. I think tree nesting birds really have declined here.

[bucket]

Except it’s not up to you or I to decide what is the right way to manage what is a public resource and A shared environment. That’s the responsibility of all stakeholders not just landowners. That’s why we have federal, provincial rules and regulations and municipal bylaws.

As I have said ...NCC is doing a shit job of pasture management. ..so who is overseeing them?

[bucket]

Except it’s not up to you or I to decide what is the right way to manage what is a public resource and A shared environment. That’s the responsibility of all stakeholders not just landowners. That’s why we have federal, provincial rules and regulations and municipal bylaws.

As I have said ...NCC is doing a shit job of pasture management. ..so who is overseeing them? Especially when they are receiving government money.

[farmaholic]

But I really like sparrows and pigeons.

[DaneG]

I think that this is the outfit that trying to buy up land to have a corridor between the riding mountain park and the duck mountain park for wildlife travel. I call it the TB highway, go figure.

[Oliver88]

As I have said ...NCC is doing a shit job of pasture management. ..so who is overseeing them? Especially when they are receiving government money.

You make very valid points Bucket. This is another example of farmers having to compete with their own taxes they paid. Going by chuck’s strong support we know it won’t help farmers and agriculture.

[furrowtickler]

Because you don't agree with me! hahahah

Wisehole you must live a very sheltered life if you are so offended by other points of view!

That’s rich coming from you , 🤔