Nature conservancy of Canada

[bucket]

So I have been doing a little research ...Did you know...

1. They were given 100 million in the last federal budget
2. They get money from provincial governments
3. They buy land and agregate it for conservation
4. They buy land from farmers using taxpayers money so farmers are competing against themselves for land...
5. They never sell land
6. Their pastures look like shit


I think they are the WE CHARITY of agriculture....an incredible scam....

ANd former politicians sit on their boards

Put Ducks Unlimited in there with them...just a scam ...

disclaimer : Not bitter about anything just stating facts

I wish people farmers and governments would quit supporting them.

[bucket]

The recent purchase of pasture around Buffalo Pound lake is odd....so the family sold to NCC and that purchase was funded by government. ...and yet there is no money for direct aid to farmers. ..

NCC then got money from K+S for a feel good issue about using pasture to put their mine on....

I don't know why farmers sell to NCC instead of asking government for the same funding they give to organizations like NCC or DU but it's a crock of shit what is going on....

Wonder why there is trouble keeping young people here ...there is part of the problem...

Making owners tenants or worse yet the next generation become serfs/peasants by supporting organizations like NCC

Go look at the Green and white NCC signs on fence posts and see who is funding the purchases.....

[chuckChuck]

If the issue is access to land for farmers then the NCC and Ducks are only a small part of the problem. A much bigger problem is absentee investors with deep pockets and very large corporate farms that are very greedy and can out compete and displace smaller operations.

If you are worried about taxpayer dollars subsidizing land purchases, its often very large farms that receive the majority of the ag subsidy dollars and this helps them takeover more and more land at the expense of smaller farms wanting more land.

I see nothing wrong with land being set aside for conservation and habitat protection, especially if it is marginal for agriculture and of high value ecologically. It's in everybodys interest to take care of the environment and protect our natural resources for future generations. There has to be a balance of interests served.

[chuckChuck]

Wisehole are you really this uniformed? You don't get any subsidies? LMAO

[chuckChuck]

Because you don't agree with me! hahahah

Wisehole you must live a very sheltered life if you are so offended by other points of view!

[burnt]

So I have been doing a little research ...Did you know...

1. They were given 100 million in the last federal budget
2. They get money from provincial governments
3. They buy land and agregate it for conservation
4. They buy land from farmers using taxpayers money so farmers are competing against themselves for land...
5. They never sell land
6. Their pastures look like shit


I think they are the WE CHARITY of agriculture....an incredible scam....

ANd former politicians sit on their boards

Put Ducks Unlimited in their with them...just a scam ...

disclaimer : Not bitter about anything just stating facts

I wish people farmers and governments would quit supporting them.

And what is happening here in Ontario is that these lands then come with "buffer zones" around them that place restrictions on the adjacent private property landowner, limiting what he or she can do on their own property.

This is one of the worst Trojan Horses this country has seen. Brought to you by the U.N. Sock puppet prime Minstrel.

Paid for with your tax dollars.

With ZERO transparency.

It is a major, foundational component of an initiative will lead to the "re-wilding" of major pieces of Canada's landscape.

It will result in the return of huge parcels of farmland to a wild and unproductive "natural" state.

Just another segment of the elites of this world making the globe into their totalitarian playground.

[bucket]

If the issue is access to land for farmers then the NCC and Ducks are only a small part of the problem. A much bigger problem is absentee investors with deep pockets and very large corporate farms that are very greedy and can out compete and displace smaller operations.

If you are worried about taxpayer dollars subsidizing land purchases, its often very large farms that receive the majority of the ag subsidy dollars and this helps them takeover more and more land at the expense of smaller farms wanting more land.

I see nothing wrong with land being set aside for conservation and habitat protection, especially if it is marginal for agriculture and of high value ecologically. It's in everybodys interest to take care of the environment and protect our natural resources for future generations. There has to be a balance of interests served.

The bolded statement .... why not just give money to farmers directly to maintain ownership instead of giving it to NCC and others to buy the land from farmers....then lease it back and allow the investor like NCC to use the gains to only their benefit as opposed to allowing the the original owner do the same thing?

[chuckChuck]

If farmers get money for Conservation it will come with rules and restrictions. Many farmers seem adverse to such restrictions in perpetuity.

[bucket]

If farmers get money for Conservation it will come with rules and restrictions. Many farmers seem adverse to such restrictions in perpetuity.

I must be the exception.....I have pasture right beside one of these NCC projects....my cows would starve on them and I get the benefit of game birds and deer and my cows are just fine...

Matter of fact I approached the NCC people checking their pastures and said they were doing a shit job...and told them to compare to mine....alll they said was they were happy with their pasture...I asked where are the birds and other wildlife with no cover????

They are just stupid people...

[chuckChuck]

That Is a management issue not an issue of principle. That can be corrected. There are lots of examples of private landowners badly managing pastures. Are you in favour of enforcing management rules on private land owners? NCC is just another private land owner with different objectives.

I have no problem with farmers receiving support for conservation. There is lots of support for ALUS.

In some European countries you don't get subsidies unless you follow the environmental rules. Its the carrot approach.