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  • sumdumguy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 11976

    #11
    With or without air conditioning? Man, when the air conditioner freezes up and it is 33 degrees out, it is the test.

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    • MBgrower
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 1565

      #12
      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
      With or without air conditioning? Man, when the air conditioner freezes up and it is 33 degrees out, it is the test.
      Seems farmers willing to overpay for everything, no wonder we dont make enough money and complain about our costs.

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      • blackpowder
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 9266

        #13
        $30 paid here. Cash or after deductions.
        Definitely not overpaying if the combine worth $400k and the on the job training is an hour for two weeks work in 2 1/2 months.
        Farmers forget some people actually feed a family on just wages.
        But, I've known these guys for 10 years and they work part-time here year round.
        Top heavy equipment operators.
        If they were here for just harvest and asked for $50, I'd probably be forced to pay it. Although $ 40-45 more in line with top hands on the line.
        $25-40 range likely here.
        Last edited by blackpowder; Aug 26, 2020, 08:32.

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        • blackpowder
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 9266

          #14
          #2. If you are gonna pay operators $50, plus fuel, plus repairs, plus capital cost, made as well just hire the custom operators it's likely cheaper.

          If your make or break spread on a combine is $20 an hour you have your answer!

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          • MBgrower
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 1565

            #15
            Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
            $30 paid here. Cash or after deductions.
            Definitely not overpaying if the combine worth $400k and the on the job training is an hour for two weeks work in 2 1/2 months.
            Farmers forget some people actually feed a family on just wages.
            But, I've known these guys for 10 years and they work part-time here year round.
            Top heavy equipment operators.
            If they were here for just harvest and asked for $50, I'd probably be forced to pay it. Although $ 40-45 more in line with top hands on the line.
            $25-40 range likely here.
            With todays combines, once they are dialed in, most teens can run them. Automation makes that even easier now. Grain cart guy, a couple hours and they are a pro. Trucking grain and filling bins, thats where you need to be careful green employees. Farming has come a long way in the last few decades, not much physical demand anymore. Most guys under 35 dont know what a grain shovel is, or what the big wrench is for hanging on the side of an old combine.

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            • blackpowder
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 9266

              #16
              Agreed.
              But I've hired many who couldn't run a combine. They were still $25.

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              • Blaithin
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 2513

                #17
                Ah, but can they grade your grain too?

                I’m worth at least $26 😆

                (I may be young but I have an unfortunate amount of experience with a shovel as well. Even if a lot of it involves cow shit, not grain)

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                • Herc
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 772

                  #18
                  Originally posted by MBgrower View Post
                  With todays combines, once they are dialed in, most teens can run them. Automation makes that even easier now. Grain cart guy, a couple hours and they are a pro. Trucking grain and filling bins, thats where you need to be careful green employees. Farming has come a long way in the last few decades, not much physical demand anymore. Most guys under 35 dont know what a grain shovel is, or what the big wrench is for hanging on the side of an old combine.
                  The green guys go on the trucks here. What can they honestly mess up. Shear bolt? clutch? Combine operator is the most experienced here. Improperly set combine can be $50 an acre in no time. Automation has its limitations, buy a lexicon you will find out quick that it gets shut off numerous times a day. Yes even the germans can’t predict it all. Cart driver also needs to be on point when multiple combines are going and smart enough to keep them all going. And a good cart driver will know when bins are going to be full.

                  I’d much rather get a call saying auger is plugged than combine is plugged.

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                  • Blaithin
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 2513

                    #19
                    Originally posted by Herc View Post
                    The green guys go on the trucks here. What can they honestly mess up. Shear bolt? clutch? Combine operator is the most experienced here. Improperly set combine can be $50 an acre in no time. Automation has its limitations, buy a lexicon you will find out quick that it gets shut off numerous times a day. Yes even the germans can’t predict it all. Cart driver also needs to be on point when multiple combines are going and smart enough to keep them all going. And a good cart driver will know when bins are going to be full.

                    I’d much rather get a call saying auger is plugged than combine is plugged.
                    Guess you’ve never got the “Oops I put the wheat in the malt bin” call.

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                    • blackpowder
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 9266

                      #20
                      Bahaha.
                      I could be a poor teacher.
                      Not sure how many hours to train a total greenhorn how to pick up flat crops and leave the rocks behind.
                      Most Class 1 drivers capable...... most.

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