USA situation virus?

[burnt]

Not so bad if that fabled .026% mortality rate rings true. But would that apply to all infections or just the first? Would people be more or less likely to die on second (or third or fourth) rounds with the virus.

Either way, the average lifespan might be dropping like a rock. No need to have retirement savings that’ll last 20+ years at least!

So could this be nature's solution to the ethical dilemmas created by unnaturally intervening to extend our years beyond what we are capable of achieving without extensive and expensive medical interventions?

Like a drug for every bug, a pill for every ill and a stitch for every itch...

[Blaithin]

You can’t successfully fight Nature. Eventually she’ll win. She has no ethics or morals to cause dilemmas. She just does what she does.

Farmers know this. We battle her every year and how often does it end in our favour.

It’s only a matter of time before something takes out large chunks of the population. Be it natural disaster or pandemic. We’ve become extremely reliant on drugs, engineering, our intelligence, Etc. like those will protect us from everything, always. Fat chance.

It’d be like fighting human nature. No matter what people think, we’re pretty much always just going to be selfish, conceited, asshats more concerned with ourselves than our neighbours.

[farming101]

If you are in an environment where you do not know if the virus may be present:

1. Wear a mask all the time
2. wash your hands often
3. do not share a dish, cup or cigarette
4. maintain distances of more that one meter(the best at reducing odds)
5. spend less that 15 minutes with close contacts

Chances of getting the virus are greatly reduced
It's not that hard

[burnt]

You can’t successfully fight Nature. Eventually she’ll win. She has no ethics or morals to cause dilemmas. She just does what she does.

Farmers know this. We battle her every year and how often does it end in our favour.

It’s only a matter of time before something takes out large chunks of the population. Be it natural disaster or pandemic. We’ve become extremely reliant on drugs, engineering, our intelligence, Etc. like those will protect us from everything, always. Fat chance.

It’d be like fighting human nature. No matter what people think, we’re pretty much always just going to be selfish, conceited, asshats more concerned with ourselves than our neighbours.

Which leads to the question: Are we capable of making choices, or are we fully pre-programed to act as we do?

[fjlip]

Spanish scientists have found traces of the coronavirus in water sewage samples dating back to March 2019, suggesting the novel virus that triggered the current pandemic emerged from China much earlier than the Chinese Community Party previously admitted.

According to Reuters, the University of Barcelona revealed Friday that scientists discovered parts of the COVID-19 genome in wastewater samples collected in Barcelona in March 2019.
After the COVID-19 outbreak reached Europe, scientists at the university began conducting research on wastewater to possibly identify new outbreaks. They also decided to test old water samples, those collected between January 2018 and December 2019. Only a sample from March 2019 tested positive for COVID-19.

"The levels of SARS-CoV-2 were low but were positive," research leader Albert Bosch said, Reuters reported.
In an interview with the New York Times, Bosch explained, "Barcelona is a city that is frequented by Chinese people, in tourism and business, so probably this happened also elsewhere, and probably at the same time."

Regarding the virus being found in a single sample from March 2019, Bosch said that it makes sense because "respiratory viruses usually have peaks around this time of the year."
Dr. Joan Ramon Villalbi of the Spanish Society for Public Health and Sanitary Administration told Reuters the research is "definitely interesting, it's suggestive."
Italian scientists have also said they found COVID-19 genetic material present in sewage months before the virus turned northern Italy into the global COVID-19 hotspot.
China claims they only became aware of the virus in late December 2019.

[dmlfarmer]

Spanish scientists have found traces of the coronavirus in water sewage samples dating back to March 2019, suggesting the novel virus that triggered the current pandemic emerged from China much earlier than the Chinese Community Party previously admitted.

According to Reuters, the University of Barcelona revealed Friday that scientists discovered parts of the COVID-19 genome in wastewater samples collected in Barcelona in March 2019.
After the COVID-19 outbreak reached Europe, scientists at the university began conducting research on wastewater to possibly identify new outbreaks. They also decided to test old water samples, those collected between January 2018 and December 2019. Only a sample from March 2019 tested positive for COVID-19.

"The levels of SARS-CoV-2 were low but were positive," research leader Albert Bosch said, Reuters reported.
In an interview with the New York Times, Bosch explained, "Barcelona is a city that is frequented by Chinese people, in tourism and business, so probably this happened also elsewhere, and probably at the same time."

Regarding the virus being found in a single sample from March 2019, Bosch said that it makes sense because "respiratory viruses usually have peaks around this time of the year."
Dr. Joan Ramon Villalbi of the Spanish Society for Public Health and Sanitary Administration told Reuters the research is "definitely interesting, it's suggestive."
Italian scientists have also said they found COVID-19 genetic material present in sewage months before the virus turned northern Italy into the global COVID-19 hotspot.
China claims they only became aware of the virus in late December 2019.

Interesting, but now the question will be did it actually begin in China, or in Europe based on it being was found in Barcelona back in March 2019. Could be a Chinese tourist picked up the virus in Barcelona and took it back to Wuhan instead of the other way around and a Chinese tourist took it to Barcelona.

[macdon02]

Spanish scientists have found traces of the coronavirus in water sewage samples dating back to March 2019, suggesting the novel virus that triggered the current pandemic emerged from China much earlier than the Chinese Community Party previously admitted.

According to Reuters, the University of Barcelona revealed Friday that scientists discovered parts of the COVID-19 genome in wastewater samples collected in Barcelona in March 2019.
After the COVID-19 outbreak reached Europe, scientists at the university began conducting research on wastewater to possibly identify new outbreaks. They also decided to test old water samples, those collected between January 2018 and December 2019. Only a sample from March 2019 tested positive for COVID-19.

"The levels of SARS-CoV-2 were low but were positive," research leader Albert Bosch said, Reuters reported.
In an interview with the New York Times, Bosch explained, "Barcelona is a city that is frequented by Chinese people, in tourism and business, so probably this happened also elsewhere, and probably at the same time."

Regarding the virus being found in a single sample from March 2019, Bosch said that it makes sense because "respiratory viruses usually have peaks around this time of the year."
Dr. Joan Ramon Villalbi of the Spanish Society for Public Health and Sanitary Administration told Reuters the research is "definitely interesting, it's suggestive."
Italian scientists have also said they found COVID-19 genetic material present in sewage months before the virus turned northern Italy into the global COVID-19 hotspot.
China claims they only became aware of the virus in late December 2019.

Wow...... the EU had motive on the back of Brexit and the inability to fund the current arrangement. The euro is worth watching for indications this is true. A break of 108 on a monthly close would indicate the death knell for them. If they hid this ....

Do you have the full article fjlip?

[dmlfarmer]

Wow...... the EU had motive on the back of Brexit and the inability to fund the current arrangement. The euro is worth watching for indications this is true. A break of 108 on a monthly close would indicate the death knell for them. If they hid this ....

Do you have the full article fjlip?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ

[dmlfarmer]

Wow...... the EU had motive on the back of Brexit and the inability to fund the current arrangement. The euro is worth watching for indications this is true. A break of 108 on a monthly close would indicate the death knell for them. If they hid this ....

Do you have the full article fjlip?

findings in Italy in December
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/italy-sewage-study-suggests-covid19-was-there-in-december-2019/news-story/2fd865f7b12a33698f3e9ab2f15a35e3 https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/italy-sewage-study-suggests-covid19-was-there-in-december-2019/news-story/2fd865f7b12a33698f3e9ab2f15a35e3

[sk_wheatking]

Interesting, but now the question will be did it actually begin in China, or in Europe based on it being was found in Barcelona back in March 2019. Could be a Chinese tourist picked up the virus in Barcelona and took it back to Wuhan instead of the other way around and a Chinese tourist took it to Barcelona.

Thats right, it can't be china, this is proof!!!! China innocent!!!!!!