Canola and planters

[furrowtickler]

Was a bit concerned after a 2 in rain 10 days ago but the emergence seemed ok .
The bean stubble is a bit thinner as it was packed like concrete after that rain . Should be ok now will just have to be on top on weed control . That’s an issue with very little trash cover and it’s more of a gumbo soil than the fields above

[kANOLA]

That is excellent stand with those kind of seeding rates

[furrowtickler]

P501 L in heavier trash



Had a few straw lumps from getting NH3 on in wet conditions last fall here .
Becomes a problem if too many .
The gates coulter harrow did get rid of most but still a few

[furrowtickler]

P501L

[furrowtickler]

A little late to this debate but very interesting.

First this year flea beetles were the thickest for me on land that was silage last year, less trash seemed to equal more damage from wind and rain. Certainly agree that deeper furrows offer more protection for the cotyledons. Maybe one reason why volunteer canola in cereal crops does so well it is better protected from the wind.

I am a little curious why phd drills would have more flea beetle damage because germination should be better than a conventional air drill.

One other thought, what is everyone’s opinion of the new Concorde precision shank drill? Some interesting features imo.

We were looking at it as a possible replacement for the old bourgault.
I like that set up .

[Hamloc]

A little late to this debate but very interesting.

First this year flea beetles were the thickest for me on land that was silage last year, less trash seemed to equal more damage from wind and rain. Certainly agree that deeper furrows offer more protection for the cotyledons. Maybe one reason why volunteer canola in cereal crops does so well it is better protected from the wind.

I am a little curious why phd drills would have more flea beetle damage because germination should be better than a conventional air drill.

One other thought, what is everyone’s opinion of the new Concorde precision shank drill? Some interesting features imo.

[furrowtickler]

Furrow If were still farming I would given the planter a try.My last seedmaster drill was on 16 in spacing and was very satisfied with machine in canola. We did a lot of trials in seeding rates with that machine and found our best results came out around the 2.5 lbs. That was with canola around TKW of 6.We had ultra pro seed drive on machine but I believe planters would do better job of seed separation.

Yes I think I know the unit . That worked very well.
JR has a similar unit set up on 15 in with techno tills . Always has very good results .
In good conditions and less than 5 g seed I would not be afraid to be at 1.5 .
We still got a decent plot at 1 lb but weed control and plant density drops off too fast .

[kANOLA]

Furrow If were still farming I would given the planter a try.My last seedmaster drill was on 16 in spacing and was very satisfied with machine in canola. We did a lot of trials in seeding rates with that machine and found our best results came out around the 2.5 lbs. That was with canola around TKW of 6.We had ultra pro seed drive on machine but I believe planters would do better job of seed separation.

[furrowtickler]

Hey Mister, you’re old enough if you remember those drills. Also the row spacing was 6 inches and 7.2 , which are ideal for grassy crops, maybe not the others? But ground cover was better, water loss/evaporated, weeds etc

The challenge is row spacing and the cost of openers, the spacing for disk openers (closest is 15 inches) or go to a multi frame disk opener (then service and depth adjustment difficulties?) and the big one fertility cost for stabilizers etc. Any agronomist worth salt would want it in the ground vs soil surface or foliar.

Need more fertilizer plants for N and cheaper pho’s, potash etc

We are going to set up something similar to this ...


We were going to do it last fall but the weather left us no time .
Contain N is a very reasonable cost for a stabilizer

I wonder why bourgault has never gone to a gentler manifold like Morris did ?
Guys here couldn’t seed borage with BG’s unless they had fertilizer mixed in stream otherwise it would smash the shit outta it
Never could understand that BG dead end wall ?