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 Everyday on the weather news on the radio they tell the record highs and lows for the day....
 
 The other day the record high was plus 7 in 1987 and the record low was minus 25 in 1939...as an example....
 
 So if we are within that range ....what is changing...
 
 For that particular day I think the temperature was minus 10 for the day....
 
 Even a couple weeks ago when the temperature was plus 10 and water was running was not a record setting day....but it got people thinking why was it instantly having water running...well because the ground has been bare and nothing is absorbing the water so it runs....
 
 Same thing will happen this spring....a couple warm days will get rid of snow and it will be a high run off year with minimum snow....the ground will not absorb it...Last edited by bucket; Feb 13, 2020, 08:32.
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 So Jazz you have one months data January 2020 compared to 40 years of data from NOAA for Decembers that shows a clear trend line lower and you are claiming NOAA's data is bullshit! LMAO
 
 Your Jan 27 map also shows that as of this date, ice extent is still below the 1981 -2010 median.
 
 So how does this equate to bullshit? You don't even seem to know what you are looking at let alone how to use it to form an argument!
 
 Another example of flat earth logic?Last edited by chuckChuck; Feb 13, 2020, 09:27.
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 Yup , now let’s look at the rest of the story .... not just a snap shot of history . Long term data ....Originally posted by chuckChuck View Posthttps://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/snow-and-ice/extent/sea-ice/N/12 https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/snow-and-ice/extent/sea-ice/N/12
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 So yup, chuck ice in general has decreased since the last major sunspot minimum, but still historically high over the past 3000 years .
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 Your graph shows a large drop in sea ice extent in the 20th century which fits with the current scientific evidence that human caused climate change is occurring.
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 You know chuck trying to save a guy from embarrassing himself is fruitless. You have lost so many arguments on climate change its not even funny. A rational person would reevaluate themselves with a long walk in the snow that's supposed to be gone by now.Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostYour graph shows a large drop in sea ice extent in the 20th century which fits with the current scientific evidence that human caused climate change is occurring.
 
 First loss, wildly inaccurate modally resembling nothing in reality. Second loss, 20 years of stagnate temperature and your 3rd loss is coming up when you find out one way or another, the earth is actually cooling in the past 5 years.
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