Dont Call It Global Warming

[furrowtickler]

Approximately 5 years to the next “max”
Activity should begin to pick up ... hopefully. These cool short growing seasons make tough harvests .
ABF5 ... my guess your last decent harvests / growing seasons were 2014 -15 ish ?
If you look at the solar cycle graphs you can pick out the late 80’s drought and the early 2000’s droughts for many areas. Fringe areas like far western Alberta and NE Sask had relative good years by being not too wet ? Just going by memory, could be wrong . Far NE sask was decent this year though because they missed the majority of fall rain / snow .


I know starting about 2005 through 2017 this area had relatively stable years and very limited frosts with long harvests for the most part despite the low sun spot activity around 2008 ish , we had more spring frosts than normal 2007 - 2009.
The solar cycle just one piece to a very complex system so trends not always exact but it is interesting after the past few years . The current reality of immature crops , wet cold harvests and early frost damage in areas does not fit the narrative at all of longer growing seasons and the ability to grow “long season” crops . Some areas just north of here were not even 75 days frost free this past year.
4-5 years ago kinda fits the WP article but not the past few years. Maybe again in 4-5 years.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Approximately 5 years to the next “max”
Activity should begin to pick up ... hopefully. These cool short growing seasons make tough harvests .
ABF5 ... my guess your last decent harvests / growing seasons were 2014 -15 ish ?
If you look at the solar cycle graphs you can pick out the late 80’s drought and the early 2000’s droughts for many areas. Fringe areas like far western Alberta and NE Sask had relative good years by being not too wet ? Just going by memory, could be wrong . Far NE sask was decent this year though because they missed the majority of fall rain / snow .


I know starting about 2005 through 2017 this area had relatively stable years and very limited frosts with long harvests for the most part despite the low sun spot activity around 2008 ish , we had more spring frosts than normal 2007 - 2009.
The solar cycle just one piece to a very complex system so trends not always exact but it is interesting after the past few years . The current reality of immature crops , wet cold harvests and early frost damage in areas does not fit the narrative at all of longer growing seasons and the ability to grow “long season” crops . Some areas just north of here were not even 75 days frost free this past year.
4-5 years ago kinda fits the WP article but not the past few years. Maybe again in 4-5 years.

2014 would be the last year when we didn't harvest with snow on the ground, and dried grain naturally.

As for defining any of our growing seasons or harvests as decent, that is a very generous term I would never use, some are just less worse than others...

[tweety]

The best thing that can happen to agriculture in NA is what is happening right now. Warmer, wetter, and more C02. Trouble is the problem is too much production already - so maybe from an economic standpoint, its the worst thing.

[furrowtickler]

The best thing that can happen to agriculture in NA is what is happening right now. Warmer, wetter, and more C02. Trouble is the problem is too much production already - so maybe from an economic standpoint, its the worst thing.

True , but it’s the opposite of reality lately.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

One just has to ignore this B/S propaganda and look at reality...

And that same statement applies to so many things in the modern world. The disconnect between the reality and the narrative is growing so large that it is almost irreconcilable. And because I doubt that reality can be moulded to fit the narrative in the long term, and the idealogues on the doom side refuse to accept reality, I just don't see any way the two sides can find common ground.

Look at this obvious issue of climate change.
World agricultural production exceeding demand growth in spite of all predictions.
Our collective Environmental record.
Renewable energy's current role and future potential.
The actual energy industry( the ones that power the world), and their imminent phase out.
Steady imperceptible sea level rise vs the outlandish predictions.
Growing wealth equality across the world.
Ever expanding known reserves of virtually all resources humans use, vs the Malthusian end of times prophecies of running out.
Growing more food on less land
Growing forests and grasslands, shrinking deserts vs. the apocalyptic headlines.
Improving standards of living, and life spans, and freedoms, and declining infant mortality etc etc.
Declining natural disasters, and human suffering by those events by all measures.
Could go on for pages on the chasm between what the actual data says vs what the uninformed public believes.

[jazz]

The best thing that can happen to agriculture in NA is what is happening right now. Warmer, wetter, and more C02. Trouble is the problem is too much production already - so maybe from an economic standpoint, its the worst thing.

Are you looking out the window when you are farming? Trend has been cool dry springs, monsoon cool summers and it all comes to an abrupt end in Sept then its a mixed bag for 2 months, snow rain, frost, major cloud cover.

Like seriously where do you get your information? The CNN scroll bar is better evidence than your own eyes?

[tweety]

Are you looking out the window when you are farming? Trend has been cool dry springs, monsoon cool summers and it all comes to an abrupt end in Sept then its a mixed bag for 2 months, snow rain, frost, major cloud cover.

Like seriously where do you get your information? The CNN scroll bar is better evidence than your own eyes?

Still struggling with climate and weather are we?

[chuckChuck]

Jazz the world is bigger than your farm or just the prairies! Do you think what you see represents the whole globe? "just look out the window" And you wonder why you get called flat earthers.

NOAA captured the cooler than normal season on the prairies and northern plains we just had, on its map of temperature anomalies. Take a look below for Sep-Nov.

[furrowtickler]

You guys going to answer this or just ignore it again and again! LOL

I have asked many times over many months and no one has any example. Just crickets!

Jazz or A5. Name one major scientific organization that says increasing CO2 levels are not causing the greenhouse effect and global warming.

In the history of this planet C02 always has followed temp rise ..... several decades later . Never has it lead temp rise in any geological record or ice cores .

[fjlip]

Jazz the world is bigger than your farm or just the prairies! Do you think what you see represents the whole globe? "just look out the window" And you wonder why you get called flat earthers.

NOAA captured the cooler than normal season on the prairies and northern plains we just had, on its map of temperature anomalies. Take a look below for Sep-Nov.

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Still can't show us ONE Doomsday prediction that has come true?

1000's that never happened, C02 is NOT a predictor, totally made up boogeyman.

[rumrocks]

Jazz the world is bigger than your farm or just the prairies! Do you think what you see represents the whole globe? "just look out the window" And you wonder why you get called flat earthers.

NOAA captured the cooler than normal season on the prairies and northern plains we just had, on its map of temperature anomalies. Take a look below for Sep-Nov.

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Chuck, if there was more blue than red on that map would that be weather or climate.

[shtferbrains]

Chuck, if there was more blue than red on that map would that be weather or climate.

In my own little production area do I worry more about the weather or the climate?

Do I sacrifice profit for climate?

[tweety]

Chuck, if there was more blue than red on that map would that be weather or climate.

Neither, its a one year average temperature (not weather but a 1 year average) departure (difference) from a 30 year average (climate).

[rumrocks]

Neither, its a one year average temperature (not weather but a 1 year average) departure (difference) from a 30 year average (climate).

How many years of consistent future data indicated by more blue [lower temps] than red would it take for you to reconsider that global warming [temperature increase] is not a concern and give Greta's fingernails a chance.

5, 30, 400


I pretty sure Al Gore would say it, but please tell me you wouldn't say global cooling is caused by global warming, just to save face.

[tweety]

How many years of consistent future data indicated by more blue [lower temps] than red would it take for you to reconsider that global warming [temperature increase] is not a concern and give Greta's fingernails a chance.

5, 30, 400


I pretty sure Al Gore would say it, but please tell me you wouldn't say global cooling is caused by global warming, just to save face.

Only thing i'm concerned about in this topic is the difference between climate and weather. I will leave whether or not it going up or down is a concern to the rest of you.

Just like the jokers in the video using the last 5 years as "proof" the planet is cooling. Well it was a cool few years, but the climate (by definition a 30 year average) continues to rise in temp. The weather feels cool, we never finished combining, tough harvests last few years, but the climate is warming. Data quite accurately shows that.

So how long? If it was cooling long enough and consistently you would see climate level off, ie no change, then go down. So technically it would take 1 year if q=1 year. And in that year the climate (30 year average) would be less in temperature then the previous 30 average (climate) the climate change would be considered cooling. It's just math. Is the 30 year running average (climate) going up, or down?

Right now its been going up. Just like that website i posted where everyone lost their $hit over the fact it had 12 decimals. If the average was going down, it would be counting down and the climate would be considered cooling. But its going up. so its warming. The running 30 year average is going up.

Ok, suppose you accumulate data every second. And right this second you calculate all 946,080,000 samples (30 years worth of seconds) and come up with 14.000000000001 degrees as an average. One second later you take another temp sample. You drop the first 1 second sample and now use the current 1 second sample and again average the 946,080,000 samples and come up with 14.0000000000011 degrees. Subtract the 2 averages, and you get a positive 0.0000000000001 degree temp rise. Then the next second you do it again. That is all that site is showing. It's only childish, as someone commented, if you don't understand. Humans generally make fun of what they fear or don't understand.

So to finally answer your question, how long? 1 second. But what the climate is showing..... yes, still going up. Just checked.

Make sense?

So now go back to the site and look at this week, this month, this year this.... and you can see if the running 30 year average (climate change) has gone up or down. And when it starts counting down, you best prepare for the ice age coming.

https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/climate-change/global-warming/average-global-temperature https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/climate-change/global-warming/average-global-temperature

What is interesting is the global solar strike increase. Which probably explains why the temperature is going up.

https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/climate-change/energy/renewable-energy-resources https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/climate-change/energy/renewable-energy-resources