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    #11
    Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
    Our mix is beluga lentils, forage peas, rye, and radish.


    We bring nutrients up from 36" to the top 12", break the weed and disease cycle, and are able to grow a cereal after with no N.


    We seed it with a spreader and lemken pass.


    No chem no fert no drill no combine no sprayer.


    Im not sure how you guys operate, but here land has to make money. Every piece of iron has to at least break even but preferrably make money, the operators have to be paid for, and there has to be a profit from the farming operation.



    We operate in the futures market. Profit is either assured or it isnt... No gambling.


    Its not the commodity price per se, its the cost of seed, fertilizer, other (machinery) inputs vs. The commodity return.
    Are you in, or transitioning to the organic market with that ground?

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      #12
      Originally posted by GDR View Post
      And what happens to all the crop matter the next year? Worked in or try to seed through? Does the eye not persist in following crop?
      If we seed WW, gly in fall with some heat or express then seed into it with a disk drill.

      If we go spring cereal, terminate with the lemken in fall. We need to do some tillage in our soil to be successful anyway.


      Not organic. Dont believe it works long term because you can't readily replace P K and S.


      Still try to do things to keep the soil as healthy and productive as possible. That way the next three generations have something worthwhile.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
        If we seed WW, gly in fall with some heat or express then seed into it with a disk drill.

        If we go spring cereal, terminate with the lemken in fall. We need to do some tillage in our soil to be successful anyway.


        Not organic. Dont believe it works long term because you can't readily replace P K and S.


        Still try to do things to keep the soil as healthy and productive as possible. That way the next three generations have something worthwhile.

        So I got a quarter of peas that we didnt get off last fall. How many passes with a lemken would it take to size them and work them in enough to reseed. Dont have any Vt at this point but have been looking. Assuming they gotta be bone dry. Cant imagine hitting them with a cultivator or even a tandem disk. Hoping for a dry spring, they were still wet and green when winter came.

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          #14
          Originally posted by GDR View Post
          So I got a quarter of peas that we didnt get off last fall. How many passes with a lemken would it take to size them and work them in enough to reseed. Dont have any Vt at this point but have been looking. Assuming they gotta be bone dry. Cant imagine hitting them with a cultivator or even a tandem disk. Hoping for a dry spring, they were still wet and green when winter came.
          A local farmer with the same problem was inquiring about renting my Wishek for that exact purpose this fall. I think the window closed before it could be tried. But I don't think I am too far from you if you are interested in trying it.

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            #15
            Tandem disk should work fine?


            One pass in fall with the Lemken. I think a hoe drill would need a second pass. Disk drill is more forgiving.

            We have never done straight peas... But the cover mix is no problem.

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              #16
              Buddy had that exact situation around here in 2017 on some poorer solenetzic land. Pea crop was immature and half drowned out and went unharvested. They disked the field in early Nov, just prior to freeze up with Wishek disk from Flamans. Them he heavy harrowed at an angle in spring of 18 to knock the clods down and to level the ridges somewhat. Seeded RR canola in that with Seed master drill. Sprayed 0.5 HC glyphosate prior to emergence and then again in crop. Result was the best crop that land has ever produced in 2018. Key to successful tillage is never in the spring when compaction will result from it.

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