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Sask Wheat Commission Report Excessive Basis aka Grain Companies Screwing Farmers

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  • Integrity_Farmer
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 428

    Sask Wheat Commission Report Excessive Basis aka Grain Companies Screwing Farmers

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    Here is a chart from Sask wheat that indicates the basis (what the grain companies steal). current port prices minus country price at Rosetown, SK equal the basis. The basis would include freight and handling. Freight and handling are legitimate deductions.

    chart basis indicates $118.44 a tonne for 1RS 13,5 or $3.22 a bushel
    $132,75 a tonne for 2RS 13.5 or $3.61 a bushel
    $143.67 a tonne for 3 RS or $3.89 a bushel

    This analysis from Sask wheat would indicate that the grain companies are stealing up to $2.80 a bushel approx. while farmers have just experienced one of the worst harvests on record.

    I am curious are the board members of Sask wheat happy with this kind of basis?

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5c40f31a620b85cf0d073e7b/t/5dcb159ccf21396829a75e24/1573590432071/Wheat+Market+Outlook+and+Price+Report_Nov.+12-%2719.pdf https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5c40f31a620b85cf0d073e7b/t/5dcb159ccf21396829a75e24/1573590432071/Wheat+Market+Outlook+and+Price+Report_Nov.+12-%2719.pdf
  • TASFarms
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 1347

    #2
    Why can’t they fill out the whole chart. More keeping us like mushrooms

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    • LWeber
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 1432

      #3
      Originally posted by Integrity_Farmer View Post
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      Here is a chart from Sask wheat that indicates the basis (what the grain companies steal). current port prices minus country price at Rosetown, SK equal the basis. The basis would include freight and handling. Freight and handling are legitimate deductions.

      chart basis indicates $118.44 a tonne for 1RS 13,5 or $3.22 a bushel
      $132,75 a tonne for 2RS 13.5 or $3.61 a bushel
      $143.67 a tonne for 3 RS or $3.89 a bushel

      This analysis from Sask wheat would indicate that the grain companies are stealing up to $2.80 a bushel approx. while farmers have just experienced one of the worst harvests on record.

      I am curious are the board members of Sask wheat happy with this kind of basis?

      https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5c40f31a620b85cf0d073e7b/t/5dcb159ccf21396829a75e24/1573590432071/Wheat+Market+Outlook+and+Price+Report_Nov.+12-%2719.pdf https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5c40f31a620b85cf0d073e7b/t/5dcb159ccf21396829a75e24/1573590432071/Wheat+Market+Outlook+and+Price+Report_Nov.+12-%2719.pdf
      Another left wing, gutless, nameless poster.

      Integrity is never nameless.

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      • sawfly1
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2016
        • 947

        #4
        Pretty considerate of the Harper
        Govt. Making it hard for us to know
        How bad
        We are getting shafted.

        Much better this money go to the Richardsons anyway .
        To Folks that need it.


        It would really suck , if we had to see it in black and white every
        Week.

        What is the saying
        Ignorance is bliss

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        • malleefarmer
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 5424

          #5
          Same stuff can be found here except opposite results basis was shocking under single desk but grain marketing here is vastly different to you guys

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          • farming101
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 3954

            #6
            Oh no, not another piece based off "work" by R Gray.

            Then Sask Wheat expects their "work" to be swallowed down whole.
            Where is my 2019-20 request for refund of checkoff form?

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            • chuckChuck
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 12891

              #7
              Show us the numbers if Sask wheat is wrong.

              Readers deserve more than insults and useless rhetoric. Especially from Weber.

              If you are that useless that you can't counter the Sask Wheat information with something substantial to disprove it, then you shouldn't embarrass yourself in public.

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              • Braveheart
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2001
                • 3257

                #8
                Is the wheat basis very weak right now? Of course. Can a a farmer ( or a lefty prof) look at the basis and itemize line by line all the numbers and say this is what the basis should be? No way. Cost of carry can be figured, risk somewhat as markets are flat and not volatile can be closely quantified, but, the general lack of demand that exists for wheat is difficult to plug into basis if you're not the elevator company that has to find a home for wheat delivered into the system.

                We know basis is awful. On our farm it's a signal to not sell cash wheat.

                How much did this study cost SK Wheat? Wouldn't dollars be better spent on market development? New uses, new customers, new trade routes, building better relationships. The kind of thing the CWB was supposed to do sans the hookers and party junkets for the buyers that came to town.

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                • chuckChuck
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 12891

                  #9
                  There have been several calls on Agriville for more transparency in the grain marketing system.

                  Farmers need to know what the basis looks like over the whole marketing year or several years to determine if the basis is a true reflection of the cost and risk of moving grain from farm to customer.

                  Or do grain companies often take excess profits in an uncompetitive system?

                  It seems that many producers on Agriville are suggesting the latter.

                  Now lets see the numbers so all parts of the grain system can see what going on.

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                  • wd9
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2000
                    • 3196

                    #10
                    Agriculture has yet to embrace Blockchain transparency like oil land leasing for example. Everyone along the chain knows the costs and payments, hence no one takes or gives up more then they should. It was one of the fellow Astech award winners couple years ago, software developed right here in AB.

                    Perhaps a good project for the million$ collected by Sask, AB, MB Wheat commissions.

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