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    #16
    Originally posted by biglentil View Post
    Dont turn gold bug on us too Errol like Ray!
    I’m not 100% sure about that Ray guy. Grants had an article 2 years back about how he really doesn’t have any primary dealers. It basically got scrubbed from the internet but zero hedge did a piece on it.

    Iceman

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      #17
      Interesting comments from Michael Burry (Movie: The Big Short based off) . . . the next big short in his view may be passive investments used by Main Street investors . . . index funds and ETFs.

      The bigger the bubble, the greater the fall . . . .

      Trump speaking today at the New York Economic Club . . . Phase one deal . . . should be interesting as China deal now appears fleeting.

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        #18
        Comments on Burry are interesting, look at the core cause of the repo crisis, why is it happening? Because the banks look at each other and think the risk is too great to lend to each other, so they deposit it at the fed instead. Thank you Bernanke for paying them .25%(sarc). The system is broken. Liquidity is disappearing, foreign govts are having issues securing credit to purchase grain due to perceived risk. The coils are getting compressed tighter. The trigger resides in Europe and its banking system, they are still loaded with pre '08 debt that the ECB didn't take off their hands.

        Edit, European banks are using their subsidiaries to collect the .25% through fed deposits.

        If the bond market implodes the real estate market collapses to cash value similar to the 30s. There's no savings left in European banks due to the negative rates, if rates increase it blows up the budget of most European countries and at the same time govt debt is competing with private debt. So if you can picture a giant circle of cash flowing around the world stopping at the fed every night and slowly the circle gets smaller and smaller as perceived risk eliminates a set of hands. The fed has become the overnight holder by default, that isn't the issue. It's when someone crucial gets missed finally, that it all blows apart. It's not fed stimulus as we have known it previously as they are the receiver of all overnight deposits.
        Last edited by macdon02; Nov 12, 2019, 08:58.

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          #19
          Now, look at the timeframe that investors started creeping into Ag, the same time that rates dropped. They couldn't get a return from the bond market so they went elsewhere. My WAG is when the bond market lets go, it'll revert to 8% +/-. More then ample for investors to say "why am i in this high risk farmland that's commodity based" there's red ink everywhere and sooner or later im gonna get burnt. Time to go back to bonds. Ag will get its own liquidity crisis as the investors get out. What brought them in will pull them out. It's a simplistic view that doesn't account for various factors but the core reason outside investors showed up was lack of return. Dirt is gonna get cheap.

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            #20
            But that all assumes that central banks or governments the world over are willing to let the house of cards collapse. They do have the tools to increase liquidity, and literally flood the market with it. Why would they purposefully allow armageddon, who benefits( OK, a few well positioned would, but the break down in law and order and civil society would make it highly uncomfortable if you were one of the few to escape unscathed)? They could literally make all debt disappear overnight( and one way or another, that is the only way we get out of this deflationary debt trap). The only questions are how much pain must we endure first to make sure we learn the lesson for a while? And how do they restore confidence in currency enough to allow a functioning debt market after blowing it up once.

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              #21
              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
              But that all assumes that central banks or governments the world over are willing to let the house of cards collapse. They do have the tools to increase liquidity, and literally flood the market with it. Why would they purposefully allow armageddon, who benefits( OK, a few well positioned would, but the break down in law and order and civil society would make it highly uncomfortable if you were one of the few to escape unscathed)? They could literally make all debt disappear overnight( and one way or another, that is the only way we get out of this deflationary debt trap). The only questions are how much pain must we endure first to make sure we learn the lesson for a while? And how do they restore confidence in currency enough to allow a functioning debt market after blowing it up once.
              Banksters were withdrawing the maximum from ATM's before meetings held to address the 2008 financial crisis. They literally did not know if the bank machines would be working after the meeting. The system was that close to imploding. Everything the fed does is reactionary, too little too late could be a disaster. Is the current $120b a month of liquidity the fed is adding to its balance sheet enough? Years of artificially low interest rates and stimulus has fostered an economy built on speculation and the misallocation of resources. Quantitative tightening failed miserably only larger and larger doses of money printing can keep the 'economy' drunk. The 'I Can't Believe its Not QE' QE will keep flowing permanently according to Fed.
              Last edited by biglentil; Nov 12, 2019, 10:48.

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                #22
                Originally posted by biglentil View Post
                Banksters were withdrawing the maximum from ATM's before meetings held to address the 2008 financial crisis. They literally did not know if the bank machines would be working after the meeting. The system was that close to imploding. Everything the fed does is reactionary, too little too late could be a disaster. Is the current $120b a month of liquidity the fed is adding to its balance sheet enough? Years of artificially low interest rates and stimulus has fostered an economy built on speculation and the misallocation of resources. Quantitative tightening failed miserably only larger and larger doses of money printing can keep the 'economy' drunk. The 'I Can't Believe its Not QE' QE will keep flowing permanently according to Fed.
                QE will go down in history as a colossal failure (IMO) . . . . But the market and investors will not understand and come to that reality until the washout occurs and the hardships and pain ensues. Then paying your debts will take on a whole new meaning. A new generation of minimalists will have an impact on consumerism. This global shift in economic power is now well under way . . . .

                The U.S. Fed is a lost pup . . . . Harvard economics no longer work.

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                  #23
                  Fed in panic mode? . . . .

                  The Fed has now completed $3 trillion in bank loan repos (emergency liquidity) in less than two (2) months. This is now apparently a historic liquidity injection, even greater than during the 2008-09 financial crisis. And the Fed has cut rates 3X this year despite a rock-solid U.S. economy and record-breaking stock market.

                  As the saying goes; Something is rotten in the state of Denmark . . . .

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                    #24
                    https://twitter.com/mnicoletos/status/1194933054286028800?s=20 https://twitter.com/mnicoletos/status/1194933054286028800?s=20

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                    Interesting about the Fed, they seem to be more worried about ROW, then domestic policy. Yes they are in full panic mode. I think this comes back to currency and the rate cuts have been an attempt to keep the Dollar index from skyrocketing. There should of been a break of trendline on the higher timeframe by now if there was weakness in the USA. It just keeps pushing higher with higher lows, not bearish. Have a look at the thread on China, if they need that much debt to spur GDP, they are down to months before the house of cards collapses. I think we have built all our commodity markets around one of the weakest countries in the world. It brings into question the entire central bank rate cut theory from day 1 and whose benefit was it for to start with? More globalization? The central banks are a 1 trick pony, more rate cuts will fix it......Imo serious consideration needs to be made about which market are we as producers selling into for this and the following crop year. Tarrifs are going nowhere, they are here to stay and the game is changing.
                    Last edited by macdon02; Nov 14, 2019, 23:43.

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                      #25
                      The push higher in US equities along with Bass's tweet says China and Hong Kong is bleeding capital at an astronomical rate, people are worried it will be seized or unavailable, its flying out of there and so China has to offer higher rates to attract investment for short term BONDS!!! Banks are the govts bitch as far as selling debt. This ties into the repo issues as banks also won't invest in China, (thank god our pension money will, sarc). Hong Kong is a massive financial market in Asia, don't have the numbers on the top of my head. If/ when the civil unrest boils to the point China goes full dictator, it's the end as far "Canada being in it for the long haul". The risks are magnifying here as far as commodity prices. We could be looking at the final push of deflation relatively short term speaking. I highly recommend reading the above hotlinked thread. There was a significant amount of time resources spent on it.
                      Last edited by macdon02; Nov 14, 2019, 23:59.

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                        #26
                        You nailed it MD. It is the ROTW.
                        To be sure there is plenty of waste and crime/theft of all sorts everywhere included the US, holder of the principle reserve currency for the world, but the big problem is how to prop up the world's economy not the US

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
                          https://twitter.com/mnicoletos/status/1194933054286028800?s=20 https://twitter.com/mnicoletos/status/1194933054286028800?s=20

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                          Interesting about the Fed, they seem to be more worried about ROW, then domestic policy. Yes they are in full panic mode. I think this comes back to currency and the rate cuts have been an attempt to keep the Dollar index from skyrocketing. There should of been a break of trendline on the higher timeframe by now if there was weakness in the USA. It just keeps pushing higher with higher lows, not bearish. Have a look at the thread on China, if they need that much debt to spur GDP, they are down to months before the house of cards collapses. I think we have built all our commodity markets around one of the weakest countries in the world. It brings into question the entire central bank rate cut theory from day 1 and whose benefit was it for to start with? More globalization? The central banks are a 1 trick pony, more rate cuts will fix it......Imo serious consideration needs to be made about which market are we as producers selling into for this and the following crop year. Tarrifs are going nowhere, they are here to stay and the game is changing.
                          Powell is trying to calm the flock, but panic appears breaking out. Fed doesn’t have a plan and the sales of Depends has likely spiked in Washington. This could bring down markets quickly, but Fed is in the money printing business big time. These freshly printed jewels are being parked in equities despite the wheels falling off-the-wagon.

                          Commodities may be hit . . . .

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                            #28
                            China has risen up to challenge US supremacy with their Belt and Road initiative, Brics, and alternative trading systems outside the USD. There will be no resolution to the trade war.

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                              #29
                              Pump it up! Fed adds $104 billion to markets in just one day . . . .

                              Dow approaches 28,000 on emergency market liquidity injection. This will not end well.

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