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Alberta sets $30-per-tonne carbon tax on large industrial emitters, aligning province

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  • jazz
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 9308

    #11
    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    And of course a new tax (or any charge) on the large emitters will never be passed on to the consumer? Just like all tax breaks large industry receive trickle down to consumers and are never used to buy back shares and as distruuibutions to share holders. My god, are you that naïve or simply a troll?
    Well tell me exactly how an oil sands facility which exports raw crude to the US passes its costs down to grannies natural gas bill which is set by the spot and near market.

    Did you pass your extra grain heating costs on to Canadians?

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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 21940

      #12
      Lol the breakfast club got together this morning, how cute .

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      • TASFarms
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 1347

        #13
        All that carbon tax will do is drive more capital out of this country. Kenny is a liberal. Looks like a few more steps down the economic latter

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        • jazz
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2018
          • 9308

          #14
          Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
          All that carbon tax will do is drive more capital out of this country. Kenny is a liberal. Looks like a few more steps down the economic latter
          Its an olive branch to industry too saying they will pay a bit but its also a carrot to look for some tech to help and a local fund is created for that purpose. It already has more sense than Trudeaus carbon tax funds into nothing.

          He lowered the corp tax rate so I doubt this will have a big financial impact. Virtue signalling Ab style.

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          • agstar77
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2001
            • 6220

            #15
            Another knife in Scheer's back.

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            • ajl
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 3246

              #16
              To its shame AB has had a cap and tax scam going on with large emitters for more than a decade now. I have sold carbon credits years ago but have not done it in the past number of years because it is immoral even though with the past four years of crap weather I could use the money. So AB electric power bills have had a carbon tax on them for years. So I assume that this is just an update of the previous program. I have not seen any ads from aggregators like Farmers Edge and the like for a couple years now so had assumed that the scam was replaced by the carbon tax during the ENDP years.

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              • bucket
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 17028

                #17
                Saskatchewan has had a carbon tax ever since saskpower started the expensive Carbon Capture Scam....dont know why that can't be used in negotiations with the federal government....except for the fact it costs more to maintain than the money they make from putting C02 back in a well...

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                • dmlfarmer
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1814

                  #18
                  Originally posted by jazz View Post
                  Well tell me exactly how an oil sands facility which exports raw crude to the US passes its costs down to grannies natural gas bill which is set by the spot and near market.

                  Did you pass your extra grain heating costs on to Canadians?
                  Instead of an oil sands producer what it the emitter is a fertilizer plant. -or cement plants or electrical generators all industri which Kenney actually mentioned now if their costs rise by x dollars do you actually think those x dollars will not be passed on to farmers whwere costs can be passed down the chain they will be. Farmers cannot pass on their costs if you did not know
                  Last edited by dmlfarmer; Oct 30, 2019, 08:44.

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                  • jazz
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2018
                    • 9308

                    #19
                    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                    Instead of an oil sands producer what it the emitter is a fertilizer plant. -or cement plants or electrical generators all industri which Kenney actually mentioned now if their costs rise by x dollars do you actually think those x dollars will not be passed on to farmers whwere costs can be passed down the chain they will be. Farmers cannot pass on their costs if you did not know
                    Then its passed on to consumers of fertilizer and cement and not consumers of home heat. The exact opposite of Trudeaus plan.

                    At least there is technology for big single emitters to invest in. Scrubbers, offsets and even CCS. How TF does granny reduce her emissions except get a blanket.

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                    • dmlfarmer
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1814

                      #20
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      Then its passed on to consumers of fertilizer and cement and not consumers of home heat. The exact opposite of Trudeaus plan.

                      At least there is technology for big single emitters to invest in. Scrubbers, offsets and even CCS. How TF does granny reduce her emissions except get a blanket.
                      Oh you are Right jazz. A grannie that consumes nothing but heat generated from natural gas will not have to pay more. And yes farmess can afford higher fert bills i guess. And since grannie does not have electricity in your perfect con world but burns the natural gas right out the pipe she will not have higher electrical costs either. Only every one else.

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