Goldman Sachs analysis of the impact of climate change. The result are terrifying

[rumrocks]

One of the areas that make me suspicious about governments and by extension, climatologists, is why they must change data and only show partial graphs when putting their argument forward. It seriously hurts their credibility.

[furrowtickler]

Furrowtickler, Why cant climate be both a result of solar influences and man's influence? Why do you feel it can only be one or the other?

Never said that , ever . It’s the climate fanatics who are completely ignoring their models are fundamentally flawed .
Yes man needs to do better . In fact the rest of agriculture in the world is trying to catch up to the zero till , reduced fuel usage per ac , the very expensive emissions controls we already have to adhere to . When China , Brazil and India and others get on board with how much we already reduce emissions the world will be a better place

[farmaholic]

I have absolutely no authority to speak on this but I think what ever is sucked out of the ground from the depths oil wells are, is simply Earth's solely produced condensate hydrocarbons from deeper gaseous sources that percolated up from deeper depths and cooled and formed those hydrocarbons. Nothing "fossil" about them.

Just a neat package that when ignited in the presence of oxygen releases heat energy. Aren't we lucky!.....on a planet that has areas basically otherwise uninhabitable by humans certain times of the year without it!

[A990]

And over the last 100 years those people have used the millions of years of energy captured from that giant gaseous ball and stored as fossil fuels to operate those cars. Highly inefficient cars too converting perhaps 25% of the energy burned into mechanical energy the remainder going as waste heat and byproduct gasses which do effect climate. Think about that Jazz

..and yet the climate started warming 50yrs before that..

[furrowtickler]

Be interesting to see what will be said when the earth cools over the next 3-6 years .

[rumrocks]

The climatologists will spin it that Co2 is now causing cooling and must be reduced quicker by increasing the carbon tax. They will eventually have us believing that Co2 draws asteroids toward earth. Fear makes us open our wallets and governments know this.

[dmlfarmer]

Be interesting to see what will be said when the earth cools over the next 3-6 years .

So how much is global temp going to drop over next 3 to 6 years?

[Guest]

**** chuck , you really need to get out more
Im wearing long underwear , a touque and 2 coats
You see, its unseasonably cold outside
Please go out in your shorts and report back to us

[furrowtickler]

So how much is global temp going to drop over next 3 to 6 years?

Time will tell

[AlbertaFarmer5]

**** chuck , you really need to get out more
Im wearing long underwear , a touque and 2 coats
You see, its unseasonably cold outside
Please go out in your shorts and report back to us

According to Grassfarmer, I am now responsible to correct you if you post anecdotal weather information in response to a global warming thread.

So please, refrain from doing so, because it really does hurt our cause. The alarmists use every weather event, regardless of how benign, and precedented it may be, as evidence that global warming is a problem. We need to take the high road on this issue, and avoid using weather events to try to prove anything about climate trends, when the trends themselves are conveniently providing all the evidence one needs to falsify the claims. When we lower ourselves to their level and do the same thing they do, it make us hypocritical when we call them out on it. Let them back themselves into an impossible corner by claiming every weather event is unprecedented, and proof of their theory(impossible because the information is available to everyone to disprove their claims), while the rest of us stick with logic and facts, and give them no ammunition to turn back against us.