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  • DEEPSouth
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2019
    • 15

    What a great idea!

    Long time reader, first time poster.

    Bayer had its big meeting, here’s a quote from a DTN article;

    “Condon also highlighted Bayer's new outcome-based pricing system, which the company is running a pilot program on in the U.S, in the hopes that it will become a new pricing paradigm in the industry.

    The system involves guaranteeing farmers a yield or outcome from seeds or other inputs. If the farmer falls below that outcome, they pay less for the original input. If they surpass it, they share some of the profits with Bayer. "This is something that we are trialing in the U.S. currently," Condon said. "And initial results look extremely promising. We're expecting to roll it out in the next few years."”

    Long story short, we grow more but have to pay on a sliding scale.
  • AlbertaFarmer5
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 12481

    #2
    Originally posted by DEEPSouth View Post
    Long time reader, first time poster.

    Bayer had its big meeting, here’s a quote from a DTN article;

    “Condon also highlighted Bayer's new outcome-based pricing system, which the company is running a pilot program on in the U.S, in the hopes that it will become a new pricing paradigm in the industry.

    The system involves guaranteeing farmers a yield or outcome from seeds or other inputs. If the farmer falls below that outcome, they pay less for the original input. If they surpass it, they share some of the profits with Bayer. "This is something that we are trialing in the U.S. currently," Condon said. "And initial results look extremely promising. We're expecting to roll it out in the next few years."”

    Long story short, we grow more but have to pay on a sliding scale.
    I would be all for sharing the risk. If my margins go negative, will the price of the inputs go negative too?

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    • farmaholic
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 17471

      #3
      Or, they pay me to grow canola. Custom rates and land rental. Supply their agrologist and spend as much as they like....I don't care.

      Weather? Who cares!

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      • Braveheart
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2001
        • 3257

        #4
        So people on here are against the seed tax but support this? ITS THE SAME THING. You're surrendering. Becoming serfs. You're entrepreneurial spirit is dead. Bayer can shove this idea up their ass and get bent.

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        • MBgrower
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 1565

          #5
          WCWGA must be gushing.

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          • binthere
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 593

            #6
            Yes the word outcome can leave a sour taste Comrads.

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            • bucket
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 17021

              #7
              Originally posted by DEEPSouth View Post
              Long time reader, first time poster.

              Bayer had its big meeting, here’s a quote from a DTN article;

              “Condon also highlighted Bayer's new outcome-based pricing system, which the company is running a pilot program on in the U.S, in the hopes that it will become a new pricing paradigm in the industry.

              The system involves guaranteeing farmers a yield or outcome from seeds or other inputs. If the farmer falls below that outcome, they pay less for the original input. If they surpass it, they share some of the profits with Bayer. "This is something that we are trialing in the U.S. currently," Condon said. "And initial results look extremely promising. We're expecting to roll it out in the next few years."”

              Long story short, we grow more but have to pay on a sliding scale.

              Its a phucking stupid idea....They want a premium for better weather....Farmer is still the risk taker....

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              • Braveheart
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2001
                • 3257

                #8
                Originally posted by MBgrower View Post
                WCWGA must be gushing.
                They seem confused. Their president supports the seed tax but opposes this idea? Split personality.

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                • Oliver88
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 4688

                  #9
                  So Bayer expects their customers with higher yields to pay a “high yield tax” to give customers with below average yields a rebate.

                  Bayer will have to create a department to administer this and us farmers will indirectly pay for those salaries.

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                  • Braveheart
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 3257

                    #10
                    Is this what happens when you have a bonehead idea and buy Monsanto? You come up with another bonehead idea to pay for your mistakes?

                    Bring in Astralnada and the Sustainbale Pulse police to grind them into the ground.

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