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    #31
    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    You are moving into super troll now grass. You really cant be that obstuse. I mean you apparently think harper caused trudeau to have to send a bunch of free cash to dairies to correct some mistake. ........
    Harper said it himself, October 5th 2015 (14 days before the election - wasn't that vote buying too bucket?)

    To compensate Canadian dairy and poultry farmers for potential financial losses from the deal, the government is promising to invest $4.3 billion over the next 15 years in new income- and quota guarantees, and other programs to keep dairy and poultry farmers “financially whole.”

    “I know what the criticisms are, but the supply management system is the basis of the rural economy in significant parts of our country. Its continuity and stability is essential for those parts of our country,” Harper said.

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      #32
      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      grass conveniently forgets that nobody can actually start a fing dairy farm here in the west because Quebec has a stranglehold monopoly on that business.
      More lies. Here is a whole page of opportunities in Alberta alone - dairy farmers buying and selling all the time. Doubtful if most grain farmers would take to milking cows 365 days a year though. If you want to have at it - sell your over priced land, expensive machinery and invest in something that you think guarantees you money for nothing.


      http://www.centralalbertafarms.com/dairy http://https://www.centralalbertafarms.com/dairy

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        #33
        Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
        Harper said it himself, October 5th 2015 (14 days before the election - wasn't that vote buying too bucket?)

        To compensate Canadian dairy and poultry farmers for potential financial losses from the deal, the government is promising to invest $4.3 billion over the next 15 years in new income- and quota guarantees, and other programs to keep dairy and poultry farmers “financially whole.”

        “I know what the criticisms are, but the supply management system is the basis of the rural economy in significant parts of our country. Its continuity and stability is essential for those parts of our country,” Harper said.
        Right but they were working on the deal ....Trudeau has had 4 years to put it out....he didn't. ...


        My guess if harper would have won it would have been sent out...

        Trudeau did nothing but use it as an ace in his sleeve....

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          #34
          As for buying votes in Quebec - there are over 6 million potential voters but only 8000 dairy farms. Yup, sounds likely they control the political destiny of a province and country.

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            #35
            Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
            As for buying votes in Quebec - there are over 6 million potential voters but only 8000 dairy farms. Yup, sounds likely they control the political destiny of a province and country.
            From those 8000 dairy farms the spin off in the local economy and jobs is huge .... tell the whole story grass ...

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              #36
              Greenland would be a smart move for the US on very many fronts . Natural resources are huge , extremely strategic location for the US .
              Much like the purchase of Alaska from the Russians that proved to be invaluable to the US , it was completely ridiculous at the time to people with zero vision ...

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                #37
                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                From those 8000 dairy farms the spin off in the local economy and jobs is huge .... tell the whole story grass ...
                So if the votes of 8000 dairy farms in Quebec affect the outcome of the provincial and federal election why don't the votes of 43,000 canola farmers, primarily in MB, SK and AB? There has got to be a spin off effect for them too.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                  From those 8000 dairy farms the spin off in the local economy and jobs is huge .... tell the whole story grass ...
                  and the $13B coming in from Ab not to mention exclusive govt contracts, direct handouts to Bombardier, extra social programs the rest of us don't get like daycare. Its a vote buying orgy. Add in the fact that Ontario and Quebec and Atl provinces have proportionally more house and senate seats than the west. Totally rigged system.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                    So if the votes of 8000 dairy farms in Quebec affect the outcome of the provincial and federal election why don't the votes of 43,000 canola farmers, primarily in MB, SK and AB? There has got to be a spin off effect for them too.
                    Should be , but it’s ignored

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                      So if the votes of 8000 dairy farms in Quebec affect the outcome of the provincial and federal election why don't the votes of 43,000 canola farmers, primarily in MB, SK and AB? There has got to be a spin off effect for them too.
                      So far Trudeau hasn't shown us the money !
                      I think it's a good idea for the Liberal Party of Canada,,, drop $4 billion onto the laps of canola growers, and lets see all the extra votes they will garner. It's worth a try!

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                        Should be , but it’s ignored
                        Do you ever think it's maybe your perception that's wrong? The fact that 43,000 western canola growers votes don't count politically but 8000 Quebec dairy farmers do? If their votes were so politically important how come the Government ignored their wishes and started to dismantle the SM system?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                          Do you ever think it's maybe your perception that's wrong? The fact that 43,000 western canola growers votes don't count politically but 8000 Quebec dairy farmers do? If their votes were so politically important how come the Government ignored their wishes and started to dismantle the SM system?
                          Where are the majority of dairy farms ??

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                            Where are the majority of dairy farms ??
                            And lets look at the climate change funds. Apparently the sands are the biggest problem so we need to transition away from FF, so we implement a carbon tax to incentivize that shift and now help those areas transition to green jobs. So zero dollars go into the west and money for Loblaws and Hydro Quebec for exactly what.

                            if grass cant see what vote buying is we are fd.

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                              #44
                              I'm a little slow, and I didn't see the connection between Greenland, and supply management of Dairy. But upon further research, it turns out that Greenland does have a dairy industry, with a grand total of 22 dairy cows.
                              Source: https://www.progressivedairy.com/blogs/ryan-dennis/the-milk-house-the-greening-of-greenland https://www.progressivedairy.com/blogs/ryan-dennis/the-milk-house-the-greening-of-greenland And the supply is strictly managed by the climate. The climate being cold in the modern era, supply is limited to what 22 cows will produce, but back in the days of the Medieval warm period, the much better climate allowed possibly many thousands of cows. So supply management does work, and when nature managed ( cut the quota) down to zero cows, the dairy farmers of the day were generously compensated for the loss by starving to death or moving.

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