Volunteer Canola not treated can withstand anything mother nature throws at it.

[SASKFARMER]

I think our new shitty expensive seed treatment hurts something because the volunteers are really tough.

[bucket]

I have asked if I could buy untreated canola seed from a retailer....nope...

If everyone sprays after buying 80 dollar an acre seed why bother treating it?

Based on what I see from untreated mustard seed and canola volunteers it seems they can come out quicker and stay ahead of the problems..

What would be wrong with using contans and seeding untreated seed and spraying with pounce?

[farmaholic]

I have asked if I could buy untreated canola seed from a retailer....nope...

If everyone sprays after buying 80 dollar an acre seed why bother treating it?

Based on what I see from untreated mustard seed and canola volunteers it seems they can come out quicker and stay ahead of the problems..

What would be wrong with using contans and seeding untreated seed and spraying with pounce?

And how would you expect those poor famished SeedCo/ChemCo to make any money.

We are dealing with a huge rip-off scam. What ever the market will bear. And people are still buying the scam. Prosper and Helix are a ****ing joke. Lumiderm products are stoopid expensive....what would the true flea beetle rate cost? We are being fleeced. Ask someone what the applied rate of Lumiderm is on the seed, how many mls/100kg of seed....silence on the other end of the phone or a blank stare in person. Don't ask hard questions, just swallow hard and pay! Look at the difference between the cutworm and flea beetle rate...how much more do you want to pay? ....it is already staggeringly over priced at the low rate.

Upcharge for shit value. We are being treated like fools.
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[SASKFARMER]

It’s like you say we’re being F$&ked royally for shit. Basic shit seed.

[jazz]

It’s like you say we’re being F$&ked royally for shit. Basic shit seed.

Remember when Monsanto went to try to a create a seed that grew like a demon for one year then quit after that so they could make farmers buy it every year?

Guess life had other plans. There is no tinkering with the code of life to make it terminate when egg head scientists want. This DNA is billions of yrs old. Selective single yr survival cannot be engineered. I suspect these hybrids are mutating wildly in the environment. Be just like G2 mustard in a few yrs probably.

[Oliver88]

It’s like you say we’re being F$&ked royally for shit. Basic shit seed.

The seed tax lobby has been very silent for the last few months.

Have any lessons been learned considering $80/acre for canola seed doesn’t even guarantee good survival rates?

[farmaholic]

The seed tax lobby has been very silent for the last few months.

Have any lessons been learned considering $80/acre for canola seed doesn’t even guarantee good survival rates?

I was going to bring this up but got sidetracked.

The SeedCo's are wringing their hands and salivating in anticipation of bringing everything under the canola model.

Imagine "having" to buy seed treatments and dressings without saying no thanks , because that is the way it comes!




All these genetics and chemistries are marketed like a "sure" thing with calender picture perfect pictures and testimonials that surely can't be biased, edited or prescripted

[grassfarmer]

The seed tax lobby has been very silent for the last few months.

Fear not, it's just the lull after the fake "consultation" period. It's still on track.

[fjlip]

How about Trueflex? What do others see? Our field is obviously less vigorous, slower growing smaller plants. But greatest new tech! Cutworms fleas beat the hell out of Helix treated but hardly touched Lumiderm treated here.

[jamesb]

I have asked if I could buy untreated canola seed from a retailer....nope...

If everyone sprays after buying 80 dollar an acre seed why bother treating it?

Based on what I see from untreated mustard seed and canola volunteers it seems they can come out quicker and stay ahead of the problems..

What would be wrong with using contans and seeding untreated seed and spraying with pounce?

Actually there is a guy selling off patent Liberty canola seed this spring, I am told same guy who sells the off patent soybean seed. From what I hear that the seed treatment provided wasn't up to flea beetle pressure and something different will be needed. I understand it was supposed to be similar to 5440.