What happens to land prices during western separation(or not)?

[grassfarmer]

......People overseas are simply too poor to buy from us. Non Us exports are dead.

What a sheer fantasy you guys live - "Trumps's a genius, no other countries have any money, America is the only game in town so we'd better see if we can join them." In reality the US only accounts for in the teens of % of world trade - either imports or exports. Not much different that the EU or China and the 3 combined are still less than half of world trade. The world is a bigger place than you see in Facebook memes and out your window.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

What a sheer fantasy you guys live - "Trumps's a genius, no other countries have any money, America is the only game in town so we'd better see if we can join them." In reality the US only accounts for in the teens of % of world trade - either imports or exports. Not much different that the EU or China and the 3 combined are still less than half of world trade. The world is a bigger place than you see in Facebook memes and out your window.

See, You really do understand. The US has so Little reliance on imports or exports, That as world trade collapses, It will have almost no effect on their economy, Compared to the sheer devastation it will have on Canada or China etc.

And as The only country willing or capable of enabling and policing world trade routes, And now no longer needing to import oil, What they decide to do with these two factors affect the rest of the world.

[jensend]

America doesn't want western Canada. They already have control of a big chunk of the Canadian economy. Separatists won't be welcomed. There are separatists in California too and Washington won't recognize western Canada because it would be precedent. The Americans have fought a war over secession and don't need another. Look at Britain's efforts to get out of the EU. The rest of Canada could make it very difficult and very expensive. It's not as simple as having a vote and wave goodbye. Alberta has become more liberal with immigration so separatism won't be universally accepted. The question of land values is irrelevant.

[ajl]

What a sheer fantasy you guys live - "Trumps's a genius, no other countries have any money, America is the only game in town so we'd better see if we can join them." In reality the US only accounts for in the teens of % of world trade - either imports or exports. Not much different that the EU or China and the 3 combined are still less than half of world trade. The world is a bigger place than you see in Facebook memes and out your window.

75 to 80% and a growing share of our exports to to the US Who all is shipping stuff here is irrelevant. Canuckistan has been trying to diversify its export markets even longer than the west has been trying to achieve political fairness with again zilch for a result. Thanks for proving my point to be correct again.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

America doesn't want western Canada. They already have control of a big chunk of the Canadian economy. Separatists won't be welcomed. There are separatists in California too and Washington won't recognize western Canada because it would be precedent. The Americans have fought a war over secession and don't need another. Look at Britain's efforts to get out of the EU. The rest of Canada could make it very difficult and very expensive. It's not as simple as having a vote and wave goodbye. Alberta has become more liberal with immigration so separatism won't be universally accepted. The question of land values is irrelevant.

If it plays out they way you suggest, then your last statement is patently wrong. The movement, regardless of outcome will have a drastic effect on land values, and not in a good way.

But on the other hand, Manifest Destiny, and the Monroe Doctrine are still alive and well.

The destinies of our nations will not be dictated by foreign powers; they will be shaped by the people who call this hemisphere home. Today, we proudly proclaim for all to hear: the Monroe Doctrine is alive and well." — National Security Adviser John R. Bolton, Miami, Florida April 17, 2019.

[tweety]

In 1871, the Government of Canada entered into Treaty 1 and Treaty 2 to obtain the consent of the indigenous nations from the territories set out respectively in each Treaty. The Treaties provided for the taking up of lands "for immigration and settlement". In order to settle the area, Canada invited mass emigration by European and American pioneers, and by settlers from eastern Canada. It echoed the American homestead system by offering ownership of 160 acres of land free (except for a small registration fee) to any man over 18 or any woman heading a household. They did not need to be British subjects, but had to live on the plot and improve it.[1


I don’t see how you can say most land, other than 9.7%, is owned by the Crown, or Queen of England, when the Dominions Land Act gave ownership to homesteaders upon meeting the requirements.

Dominions act was repealed in 1930. At that point half went to provinces, half to federal. You only hold tenure, not ownership.

[samhill]

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/T-7/page-1.html#h-461426

Please post the portion of the Territorial Lands Act that removes ownership and states tenancy.

The TLA removes any future homesteading rights.

[jazz]

Home quarter protection is derivative from the Dominion Land Act which predates the treaties. Its about as solid a land right as you are going to get anywhere except maybe the US.

[tweety]

If a provincial government wants to expropriate "your" land, you will quickly see you own nothing. Sure they need to mostly compensate you and say why, but your tenure is yanked. Then you get to "own" somewhere else.

[samhill]

There is no doubt the Crown can expropriate for “the common good”. And yes you are compensated, and have the right and opportunity of a hearing to justify your compensation.