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    After careful consideration....

    The announcement today will have ramifications 2 years down the road...its actually the worst possible solution for agriculture in this country...

    It adds more debt....Its divisive by allowing canola growers to have more interest free...while other commodities have been hard hit ....pulse growers come to mind....with no 500k interest free.....

    Every other industry that has been hit by trade issues have been given non repayable funding....

    Most industries can be baited to leave with lower tax jurisdictions....Thinking bombardier and the auto sector....

    I don't know what kind of farm group leadership we have but they are some kind of ****ing stupid....And premier Moe should have called Grant Devine for some advice....

    Moe is going to have a tough time when farmers figure out how idiotic it is to add debt while other industries get funding....Toyota 115 million,,,Nature Conservancy 100million,,,the steel companies2 billion,,,,the supply managed sector.3,9 billion..

    Flame away but this wasn't thought out very well

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    Bucket, you need to educate yourself more on how the CCGA advance works. It does not just advance money on canola but on all the other major crops grown. You have to be enrolled in either Agrstability or have crop insurance on the crops you want to take an advance on, and the amount you will be eligible for depends on your reference margin or the percentage of coverage you take on that particular crop and your historical yield average. You still are correct though that this is not a solution to the problem at hand. For shits and giggles lets say you qualify for the full $1,000,000.00 you are now paying prime plus 1% on $500,000.00 instead of $300,000.00 adding more debt while needing to repay that debt with commodities that are 15%-35% less value. How in any world does that make sense, the provincial gov. was not inclined to add more debt when their revenue from oil, potash and uranium fell, why do they think it is okay for us as producers to do so? Put tariffs on the junk that China is exporting into Canada and use that money to make a Farm Management Payment(FMP) like Trump did to offset the financial shortfall that this government in their own stupidity has caused us.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Misterjade9 View Post
      Bucket, you need to educate yourself more on how the CCGA advance works. It does not just advance money on canola but on all the other major crops grown. You have to be enrolled in either Agrstability or have crop insurance on the crops you want to take an advance on, and the amount you will be eligible for depends on your reference margin or the percentage of coverage you take on that particular crop and your historical yield average. You still are correct though that this is not a solution to the problem at hand. For shits and giggles lets say you qualify for the full $1,000,000.00 you are now paying prime plus 1% on $500,000.00 instead of $300,000.00 adding more debt while needing to repay that debt with commodities that are 15%-35% less value. How in any world does that make sense, the provincial gov. was not inclined to add more debt when their revenue from oil, potash and uranium fell, why do they think it is okay for us as producers to do so? Put tariffs on the junk that China is exporting into Canada and use that money to make a Farm Management Payment(FMP) like Trump did to offset the financial shortfall that this government in their own stupidity has caused us.


      The announcement today takes canola advance to 500k interest free....all other crops remain at 100K

      So while adding debt is not the solution....giving one commodity an extra 400k interest free while others like lentils don't ....seems like it is going to cause problems....

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        #4
        So what's going to happen when the trade realizes farmers have bins full of 2018 canola when fall comes. Makes interest free not so appealing. If it isnt going to be in the bin at harvest what do you need an advance for. You should have cash. Makes no sense to me and more down side than up IMO. Better to suck it up and move on with marketing this crop. If you want to blame it on someone do it in October or at election time in general.

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          #5
          They will say to much product and take 2 dollar a bushel haircut on us stupid farmers.

          We’re ****ed

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            #6
            Originally posted by bucket View Post
            The announcement today will have ramifications 2 years down the road...its actually the worst possible solution for agriculture in this country...

            It adds more debt....Its divisive by allowing canola growers to have more interest free...while other commodities have been hard hit ....pulse growers come to mind....with no 500k interest free.....

            Every other industry that has been hit by trade issues have been given non repayable funding....

            Most industries can be baited to leave with lower tax jurisdictions....Thinking bombardier and the auto sector....

            I don't know what kind of farm group leadership we have but they are some kind of ****ing stupid....And premier Moe should have called Grant Devine for some advice....

            Moe is going to have a tough time when farmers figure out how idiotic it is to add debt while other industries get funding....Toyota 115 million,,,Nature Conservancy 100million,,,the steel companies2 billion,,,,the supply managed sector.3,9 billion..

            Flame away but this wasn't thought out very well
            Dumbest ****ing thing i ever heard of
            He asked for that because that is all the pricks will give
            He knows ,trudo knows it , we all know it

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              #7
              Partners , arent you glad you let them “take advantage of you on that $10 premium” ? Wished we would of done more lol
              Glad we cashed in on the non gmo and nexera and done some for next year
              Hi acid sure looking good at $13.75 full production
              Hope we can grow some. Sure is dry here , missing everything they have forecasted

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                #8
                Only has to keep agriculture industry booming till next election. Farmers can pay for $700 fertilizer with $7 canola after the election. SOCK BOY can get his picture taken and finish killing the West after the next election.

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                  #9
                  Get rid of ****ing carbon tax shoulda been 1st !

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by 6V53 View Post
                    Only has to keep agriculture industry booming till next election. Farmers can pay for $700 fertilizer with $7 canola after the election. SOCK BOY can get his picture taken and finish killing the West after the next election.
                    If he gets back in there will definetely be another “great divide” running north and south in this country
                    He has made it perfectly clear he has no use for western canada and in facts despises our very existence and good old ralph will get in the history books as the last western liberal mp

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                      #11
                      MOMO says it’s great says trudough and BOBO care about farmers.

                      So now all the DILDOs don’t have to offer anything to farmers except higher debt on lower prices. Brilliant.

                      Big party amongst the government and producer groups tonight. Fooled the media and some dumb farmers.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bucket View Post
                        The announcement today takes canola advance to 500k interest free....all other crops remain at 100K

                        So while adding debt is not the solution....giving one commodity an extra 400k interest free while others like lentils don't ....seems like it is going to cause problems....
                        Ok, so you are saying that only canola can be used to get the extra $600,000.00 and then out of that $1 million, $500K is interest free?, and if you use other commodities then you cannot access $1M or can you use other crops to get the $1M but then only $100K of the $1M is interest free? You confused me and I even confused myself trying to right this post I hope you can understand what I am trying to ask. I have been to busy to find and read the announcement.

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                          #13
                          Why didn’t they really make it sound good and give interest free for 10 million? 50 million a farm? It will still help the same amount of people but it would have sounded even more spectacular. *** retarted people.

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                            #14
                            All I know is that on the radio the Premier and APAS are patting themselves on the back, I didn't give either one of them enough credit for being that stupid.

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                              #15
                              It will only make canola go down faster and farther..
                              Under 9 bucks at viterra now.

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