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    Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
    ... On the other side of the coin, who is our supposed market for the oil that is going to flow through the TMX expansion? China and Asia....
    That's conjecture - there is apparently no established market in Asia for the increased oil exports. It would be loaded on tankers at the coast and shipped into California - where we would continue to receive steep discounts on it relative to the US domestic produced product. Easier and cheaper to pipe/ship than to truck/train that's all you'd achieve by building a pipeline with no guarantees price to the producer would increase by a cent.

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      Typical liberal Bullshit line. China doesnt want our oil and if we build a pipeline it will get loaded on ships and sent to california on a discount.

      Wow.

      Typical bullshit.

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        Grass, china is in like a dirty shirt in venezuala. Of course there is a market for our heavy crudes and we could be supplanting that country right now if we had pipelines.

        Trudeau will not destroy western Canada because our lifeline is the US Midwest. Declare separation, join the US, get our resources in US demoninated currency and let those Quebec fools govern themselves. Its the only way. Peter Zeihan has laid this out perfectly. If we stay in Canada, we will be bled dry while our COP skyrockets and our markets dry up in competition with lower cost countries. Joining the US is the only way. We just haven't realized it yet. Might take another Trudeau term. I think we should be hoping he gets in again.

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          China has outbreak of African swine flu.

          Earlier, maybe January, they had lost 600,000 pigs.

          I'm not a pig guy but I think that means about 200,000 tn less feed.

          Maybe they had to renege on some contacts and they picked us.

          Pigs are locked limit up on futures. Big deal worldwide.

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            China has 450 million pigs, over 1/2 the world population.

            This is from a vet recently over there:

            "Brett Stuart, president of Global AgriTrends, told the audience at the American Association of Swine Veterinarians (AASV) meeting being held this week in Orlando, Fla., that African swine fever (ASF) is a global “black swan” event for the pork industry.

            Currently, there are three pillars of the ASF problem, he noted.

            “You have the world’s worst hog disease in the world’s largest hog herd — it’s high density, it’s not standardized and it all shares infrastructure, whether it be trucks, feed mills or slaughter plants — and you have a government that is completely lacking in transparency that is trying to cover it up. So, there’s not a lot of reporting on it,” Stuart said.

            Additionally, the spread of the disease is vast and deep, he said -- “way, way, way worse than we are hearing.”

            Stuart, who has been talking to as many as possible about the disease, said a big commercial hog operation privately told him they have lost 95% of their sows."

            40% of their production is small producers out in the yard, no bio security an little knowledge of it


            Looks like Canadian Canola probably isn't at the top of their priority list.

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              Uh, canola oil can be used as fuel, meal as protein supplement, pretty sure there’s a bottom in price.

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                Originally posted by samhill View Post
                Uh, canola oil can be used as fuel, meal as protein supplement, pretty sure there’s a bottom in price.

                Fish food. The environmentalists should pay us to dump it in the ocean.

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                  Might be kind of a blessing if the price is in the shitter at seeding and scares enough acres away so that in the event things turn around the buggers have to pay for it. I wish.

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                    Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
                    Typical liberal Bullshit line. China doesnt want our oil and if we build a pipeline it will get loaded on ships and sent to california on a discount.

                    Wow.

                    Typical bullshit.
                    I'll believe the views of economists and industry insiders over disgruntled Liberal voters in Saskatchewan.

                    http://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/amid-trump-trade-war-trans-mountains-asia-appeal-grows-crucial http://https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/amid-trump-trade-war-trans-mountains-asia-appeal-grows-crucial

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                      Just hope everyone knows that Syngenta is owned by ChemChina and Adama is owned by another Chinese chemical company or else by ChemChina. Just do some googling on Adama to check my story. Maybe we will need to find it difficult to buy their farm chemical products for this season.

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                        So this Chinese lady was in New York just before coming back to Vancouver?????
                        WTF !!!!
                        Why is our Ag industry not demanding an answer as too what is really going on ??

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                          China has identified the pest in canola

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                            case ih that was pretty funny.
                            but it could have been just as easily Harper in the pail.
                            he would have grabbed Meng too.
                            anything to please the USA.


                            you get the feeling that China and the USA are pretty nasty business people .
                            not really a big surprise to anyone.
                            kinda like trump himself.


                            if any one believes being nice to Trump will earn you any favors.

                            you are dreaming . he just knows your a ***** then has really got you .
                            he will cut your throat before the ink is dry on a deal.

                            all that said . sooner or later , they will want our stuff.
                            and that is our only way out.
                            take care of things at home till that happens.

                            china has some right to bitch at us.
                            if Russia or France any country , had a warrant for some big US company head.

                            they issued a warrant for arrest for tax evasion , or something in that country.
                            and we grabbed them for extradition.
                            the US would lose it too.

                            maybe none of it was avoidable , anyway .

                            it all boils down to being nice to the USA .
                            bit us in the ass.

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                              Canada allows 2.5% dockage in export shipments! What does other countries ship at for dockage %?

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                                Would shipping by container instead of bulk reduce chances of rejects? Lose a container or two instead of whole boat full.

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