Canadian grain Levies/Royalties

[seldomseen]

So the new "rules" are trying to stop you from using farmer saved seed each year?
Still grappling with main contentious issue?

Someone give it me in 2 easy to read and understand australian sentences

I am not sure if you got the easy answer yet Malle.

No they are not trying to stop us from using farm saved seed they just want us to pay a royalty on farmed saved seed.

[TOM4CWB]

"So in a nutshell forcing us to pay for mediocre seed that doesn’t create a whole lot more value."

Im a simpleton well dont grow the new seed if you dont think its gonna perform simple as that or again am i missing something.

Again not exactly sure of numbers but lets say there are 10 new wheat in australia for 2019 most are only equal to previous best or maybe 1 or 2% higher but may have other superior traits.

None of them turn me on so will continue to grow my 5 year wheat but will get a coupla tonne to bulk up again to have clean seed for 2020 simple as that.

If my neighbours try new ones and turn out ok will either get new seed from cert seed grower or get some from my neighbour and pay full epr at point of sale in the future 2020 or 2021 depending on how much i get if i do.

Obviously this logic/system dont work in western canada.

Mallee
Your Australia EPR system would work in western Canada. 70% of Cereal plant breeding is public and 30% private. Yes we would have to change some of our traditional planting seed culture... but if we change for the better... take the best benefits of the EPR system with some Western Canadian tweeks... this could be the best of all Worlds in the outcome.The eastern Canadian seed system functions like Canola with corn and soybeans being the driver of the seed system with private breeding being primarily closed loop production plant breeding systems... so changes needed are primarily for Western Canada Cereal and Pulse varietal development.

[MBgrower]

Who in their right mind advocates for higher costs for their business?

I truly believe nothing will improve for primary producers. In time all we will see is an additional cost, initially maybe $2-5/acre and later with the possibility of having to buy new seed every year, who knows maybe up to $25-40/acre, pick a number...it will be what ever the market will bear.

Stop treating grain producers like "shooting fish in a barrel"!

i guess those who get a farm handed to them for nothing dont mind paying higher costs. seems to be a common theme amongst the proponents.

[sawfly1]

Oh it sounds all wonderful

But it will be bait and switch.
Get the collection system in place.
You Do not want to scare them off before it is law.
Lay the groundwork.
Run the rest of the breeders out of business.
The next conservative govt .
Will axe public breeding.
Then it is time to adjust the rates.
Guess what direction?

A canola repeat , just now every
Crop will cost 80$/acre for seed.

about political clout.
The seed business will soon
Be making more money than renting
Out all the land in western Canada..
(TALK about the politicians following the money)

It will not be those dumb ass farmers with the money .
We will not count.

Believe all the bull if you
Want.
Remember the one about the RRs
Hauling all your grain. If they got full compensatory rates.

Same folks selling it .
Same old shit.
Same fools buying in

[furrowtickler]

Oh it sounds all wonderful

But it will be bait and switch.
Get the collection system in place.
You Do not want to scare them off before it is law.
Lay the groundwork.
Run the rest of the breeders out of business.
The next conservative govt .
Will axe public breeding.
Then it is time to adjust the rates.
Guess what direction?

A canola repeat , just now every
Crop will cost 80$/acre for seed.

about political clout.
The seed business will soon
Be making more money than renting
Out all the land in western Canada..
(TALK about the politicians following the money)

It will not be those dumb ass farmers with the money .
We will not count.

Believe all the bull if you
Want.
Remember the one about the RRs
Hauling all your grain. If they got full compensatory rates.

Same folks selling it .
Same old shit.
Same fools buying in

Unfortunately you may be very correct.

[macdon02]

This is the first attempt at claiming any and all gains in efficiency a producer makes. Grow more, pay more. Pretty good gig if you can get it. Time to redo the model. We've reached peak grain production. If you make efficiency gains with better nitrogen use, a better planter, more equipment, the seed company gets a cut. They claim royalty on nothing they even developed.