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  • tubs
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 489

    railroad through the rockies

    How feasible would it be to do some tunneling through the rockies to make our exporting of commodities more efficient and railroading saver. The Trudeau government had no trouble blowing 4,5 billion dollars on a wore out pipeline.
    How much could we improve our export capabilities to inject that kind of cash in such infrastructure, not saying it should be just one tunnel but a series of a few to get rid of bottleneck and avalanche areas.
  • bucket
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 17033

    #2
    If memory serves me correctly it seems Europeans do this fairly often. .....and of course there is the chunnel under water and look what Norway is planning....

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    • farmaholic
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 17483

      #3
      Why would "nationalizing" the Railroads be considered a communist socialist endeavor? Under the circumstances I would call it nation building....they don't want to seem to invest in capacity expansion. What would be wrong with a percentage of "surge" capacity?

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      • tubs
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 489

        #4
        It could be run on a toll fee. I think this could be a nation building process there are all kinds of government, private sector projects this could be a win for everybody.

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        • Rareearth
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 1618

          #5
          THE WORLD'S LONGEST RAIL TUNNEL IN THE HEART OF THE SWISS ALPS
          Length: 57km (the longest rail tunnel in the world)

          Duration of tunnel journey: a little under 20 minutes

          Total length of all the tunnels: 152km (94 miles)

          Highest point of the tunnel: 550m (1,800 feet) above sea level

          Maximum rock cover: 2,300m (7,545 metres)

          Construction time (excluding exploratory work): 17 years (100 feet per day)

          Excavated material: 28.2 million tonnes

          Total cost: 12.2billion Swiss francs (£8.4billion) $12 billion dollars

          Tunnel capacity: 260 freight trains and 65 passenger trains per day

          Timetabled speed: freight trains 100km/h (62mph); passenger trains up to 200 km/h (125mph)

          Maximum speed: freight trains 160km/h (100mph); passenger trains 250 km/h (155mph)

          Reduction in journey time from Zurich to Lugano after completion

          of the axis (from 2020): around 45 minutes

          Official opening of the Gotthard Base Tunnel: 11 December 2016

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          • 15444
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2000
            • 2112

            #6
            Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
            Why would "nationalizing" the Railroads be considered a communist socialist endeavor? Under the circumstances I would call it nation building....they don't want to seem to invest in capacity expansion. What would be wrong with a percentage of "surge" capacity?
            You really don't want a country as retarded as this one to own a rail line. Look how long it took to get the line to Churchill fixed? Rail maintenance is ongoing cost, let alone expansion. And government doesn't know **** all about running a business. Your neighbor looks like he is ****ing up as a farmer, go buy him out, no matter the cost - surely you can run his operation better than him. That is essentially what you are telling government.

            Socialists have no ****ing clue when cuts have to be made and costs saved to make a business of value, regardless of how someone else feels.

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            • bucket
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 17033

              #7
              Originally posted by 15444 View Post
              You really don't want a country as retarded as this one to own a rail line. Look how long it took to get the line to Churchill fixed? Rail maintenance is ongoing cost, let alone expansion. And government doesn't know **** all about running a business. Your neighbor looks like he is ****ing up as a farmer, go buy him out, no matter the cost - surely you can run his operation better than him. That is essentially what you are telling government.

              Socialists have no ****ing clue when cuts have to be made and costs saved to make a business of value, regardless of how someone else feels.
              The churchill line didn't get fixed because Omnitrax was paying their shareholders instead of using the government money to fix and maintain the line....which is why the government threatened to sue...

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              • SASKFARMER3
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 14485

                #8
                See that would take brains and planning for a greater canada and eastern canada just wouldn’t have it.

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                • farmaholic
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 17483

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 15444 View Post
                  You really don't want a country as retarded as this one to own a rail line. Look how long it took to get the line to Churchill fixed? Rail maintenance is ongoing cost, let alone expansion. And government doesn't know **** all about running a business. Your neighbor looks like he is ****ing up as a farmer, go buy him out, no matter the cost - surely you can run his operation better than him. That is essentially what you are telling government.

                  Socialists have no ****ing clue when cuts have to be made and costs saved to make a business of value, regardless of how someone else feels.
                  I don't think "governments" are good at business either but how do you force a capitalistic duopoly to do what's best for the country they serve rather than the shareholders they serve.

                  Equally as incompetent as a government run business who doesn't know when to make necessary cost saving cuts is a capitalistic run business who doesn't know when to make profit increasing investments or expansions.

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                  • 15444
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2000
                    • 2112

                    #10
                    Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                    I don't think "governments" are good at business either but how do you force a capitalistic duopoly to do what's best for the country they serve rather than the shareholders they serve.

                    Equally as incompetent as a government run business who doesn't know when to make necessary cost saving cuts is a capitalistic run business who doesn't know when to make profit increasing investments or expansions.
                    You say profit as if it is a guarantee. Cutting costs alway guarantees savings.

                    Go invest in 3 new Case Quadtracks. My numbers say it will be profitable expansion for you. If I am wrong, oh well, silly me - good luck with the bankruptcy.

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