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    #16
    When you leave even the best of governments in too long they get where we are now. They do not listen or care about who put them there. They have enough people bought off they feel the rest doesn't matter.

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      #17
      Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
      And that's all I m pointing out. To say one or the other is so much better is laughable.
      And I agree, any solutions?

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        #18
        Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
        The ndp ran Sask like the mafia.

        Yes I lived here and worked.

        It was perfect if you believed the manifesto and followed it.

        The ones in charge became wealthy.

        Kept and wanted the population low.

        They hated rural

        Loved unions.

        Oh it was so good!

        Ha ha ha
        Exactly what happened here under the cons,except mabey loved unions,but they paid them the best in canada, they could ignore rural because for some reason unknown to man rural votes con no matter what they do.
        Sorry cant see any difference between partys,except our own biasi.

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          #19
          Originally posted by jimmy View Post
          And I agree, any solutions?
          There is no easy solution there kinda is a big political machine in place with only 2 options right now. I don't care for the Ndps past either. But the worst thing to do is say how great the saskparty has been when in my opinion they haven't been on both fronts the integrity front or the ag policy front.

          If things were the way they should be us farmers should have a way to express our concerns to these people but there is no way and if there was would they listen?
          I think not they're too controlled and focused on proving the oil industry is all they need.
          The Ndp don't even mention agriculture even though there are so many issues they could be bringing up so yes what do we do?

          The farm groups are too politically intertwined with their favourite people that all they really are is media control also for their controllers.

          How do we get a farm group to be formed with less ties to actually discuss these issues more openly?

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            #20
            Sask has a Conservative party and it isn’t the sask party.

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              #21
              Yea it does and as soon As we run a bunch of guys against the Sask party the NDP wins because they have 36% of Saskatchewan people. Oldest game going and split the vote that’s how the NDP won year in year out in Saskatchewan.

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                #22
                Well don't split it then just vote conservative maybe. I looked briefly on their policies at least they are mentioning some of our issues but need a forum for us farmers to be heard also

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                  #23
                  In the long term a loss to the sask party even to the Ndp would be best. They'd finally be told and have to accept corruption and spending like fools doesn't cut it as well as the fact you need rural Sask so act like we matter.

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                    #24
                    Always the finger pointing but never the solution,we are never going to get reconition when we are 2% or less of the voting public,but trying to demonize the other guy instead of telling it like it is isnt going to work ,they just point it out we cant get together so why should they(politicans) give a damn.
                    Mabey little johny is a little shit and not the kid down the road,time to look at the whole not just what we want to see.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
                      Saskatchewan under the NDP got us almost to this place. Ah, remember how it was.
                      Well said SF3 !!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
                        In the long term a loss to the sask party even to the Ndp would be best. They'd finally be told and have to accept corruption and spending like fools doesn't cut it as well as the fact you need rural Sask so act like we matter.
                        LOL....you NDP’ers are funny.
                        This happened in 2015 in Alberta unfortunately it was a huge failure resulting in the socialists and anti-energy activists willingly bringing in a carbon tax.
                        Deficits, unemployment, debt, more government bureaucracies, investors moving capital out, good times.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Horse View Post
                          You bitch and complain about the NDs all the time when you should be looking at what your chosen party is doing,quit turning a blind eye and ask what in hell they are doing,I dont know much about sask politics but by what I read on here its no different than anywhere else.
                          As for the NDs in alta tell what they have done that is so bad,most of the crap I see was in place when the cons left,and I may add ,with a smokeing trail from the paper shredders,please enlighten me as you seem to know all??
                          Horse as an Albertan I will give you a few examples of NDP mistakes. First climate leadership plan. Higher carbon tax than was required by the Feds with no resulting benefit. Mandated shutting down coal fired plants early at what will be a total cost of a billion dollars with what real benefit? Raised minimum wage by what 45% and included other payroll increases. Biggest net result from personal experience restaurant meals have increased in cost over 30% since 2015. Raised corporate taxes by 20% and resulted in lower revenues. Lowered small business tax from 3 to 2%, certainly hope I can afford 3%. Alberta has the lowest business confidence in Canada according to latest poll by Canadian Federation of Independent business. Fastest accumulation of government debt in Alberta's history! Need I go on, oh and still no pipeline after kissing Trudeau's ass for 3 years! Enjoy your day.
                          Last edited by Hamloc; Jan 31, 2019, 16:04.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                            Horse as an Albertan I will give you a few examples of NDP mistakes. First climate leadership plan. Higher carbon tax than was required by the Feds with no resulting benefit. Mandated shutting down coal fired plants early at what will be a total cost of a billion dollars with what real benefit? Raised minimum wage by what 45% and included other payroll increases. Biggest net result from personal experience restaurant meals have increased in cost over 30% since 2015. Raised corporate taxes by 20% and resulted in lower revenues. Lowered small business tax from 3 to 2%, certainly hope I can afford 3%. Alberta has the lowest business confidence in Canada according to latest poll by Canadian Federation of Independent business. Fastest accumulation of government debt is n Alberta's history! Need I ho on, oh and still no pipeline after kissing Trudeau's ass. Enjoy your day.
                            Carbon tax is balognie but in one side of the mouth we did oh my carbon taxes are bad then we spent what was it a billion and half on a carbon sequester project and then tried to lie about the effectiveness of it to American investors which in the end cost us you guessed it a billion dollars. Mind you there are some jobs but all part of the pst now. Hahaha

                            It's rather comical actually but too serious to laugh.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                              .......
                              Raised minimum wage by what 45% and included other payroll increases. Biggest net result from personal experience restaurant meals have increased in cost over 30% since 2015.
                              ......
                              You were ok for basically slave wages ? 15$ an hour is too rich?

                              Wage went from 10.50 (which is ridiculous) to 15$ over 4 years. Small biz tax rate decreased from 3% to 2%. Can you really blame the net of that to increase the meal by 30%?

                              The predictions of 53,000 to 93,000 jobs lost because of increase was a farce, instead 40k jobs in that income bracket were created. ATB says restaurant receipts are at an all time high.

                              64% of those who work at minimum wage are women.
                              Last edited by wd9; Jan 31, 2019, 16:25.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by wd9 View Post
                                You were ok for basically slave wages ? 15$ an hour is too rich?

                                Wage went from 10.50 (which is ridiculous) to 15$ over 4 years. Small biz tax rate decreased from 3% to 2%. Can you really blame the net of that to increase the meal by 30%?

                                The predictions of 53,000 to 93,000 jobs lost because of increase was a farce, instead 40k jobs in that income bracket were created. ATB says restaurant receipts are at an all time high.

                                64% of those who work at minimum wage are women.
                                First, did a quick Google and most recent article from ATB I could find was for end of August and looked at statistics from June. It did say receipts were at an all time high but the number of sales per restaurant were down. The higher total reflected higher prices due to increased costs.

                                Now your comment about slave wages. I agree $10.50 is to low but I also believe there should be lower wages for teens or new employees as well as liquor servers. Raising wages that drastically during a time of an economic slowdown seems like a bad idea. Plus while it appears not that many jobs were lost how many hours were cut? Time will certainly tell.

                                As for the reduction in small business tax. At 3% it is already low enough. With the size of deficits Alberta is running it seemed like a unnecessary cut but I guess after all the other costs like carbon tax, increased regulations and higher labour costs they felt they had to throw small businesses a bone. Enjoy your day.

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