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why does Kinetics keep calling?????

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  • wd9
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2000
    • 3196

    #11
    Why would you even answer the phone?

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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 22043

      #12
      Originally posted by seedman View Post
      I got the same survey on Jan14. Read the Preamble...something along the lines of; "Assume for this survey that wind turbines are not ecologically harmful to birds or wild life; That cost of infrastructre to construct and maintatin these units is not an issue, that aesthetics on the landscape aren't a consideration, and that noise generated by them isn't an issue..." on and on. What kind of an accurate survey are they going to get if they make you NOT consider the realities of what they are discussing? To me, it sounded like an NDP sanctioned survey that will come out and say "In our last survey done by Kynetec Reasearch, 94% of respondants are in favor of the windmills and not one respondant had anything negative to say about their presence the landscape, and our study CONCLUSIVELY proves that the beneifts FAR outweigh the small negative aspects of wind generated power.
      I let them have it in the last page for final comments. I basically told them based on this survey I just completed, I will NEVER trust a survey conducted by Kynetec as they are loading the survey before it is even completed, making it innacurate and corrupt, just like those they are doing the survey for. Probably not going to get any more surveys from them, but oh well...
      This is exactly like all “environmental studies” or surveys...... all loaded questions . Thanks for posting seedman
      More people need to realize the truth behind surveys like this .

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      • furrowtickler
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 22043

        #13
        Sad part is , surveys like this get touted as facts later on very misleading results.

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        • WiltonRanch
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 4517

          #14
          Judging by the margin of error in polls versus results makes you wonder. Most polls are a simple question. Throw in loaded questions and the people asking are only fooling themselves with loaded answers. My attention span is so short that the longer a question is the less likely I’ll remember what was asked and give an obscure answer.

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          • walterm
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2003
            • 333

            #15
            Said they were surveying growers I said I'm a shrink-er they laughed and said Thank You good bye!

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            • seedman
              Member
              • Oct 2000
              • 49

              #16
              Originally posted by wd9 View Post
              Why would you even answer the phone?
              It came by email...so I thought I would make some cofee money that evening....

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              • AlbertaFarmer5
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 12564

                #17
                I've never been contacted by Kynetec (Not Kinetics as in the title). But get a lot of surveys from Dimark and Stratus. Not sure how they got my contacts, but if I have time while waiting for something, I'll gladly do the surveys, and if they involve asking questions about pricing of inputs and products, I make it very clear that price is the most important factor. One way to get some input.

                But lately I've noticed that they must be getting very high response rates. It used to be that I could start a survey, do a few minutes here or there as I had time, and finish it a week later or more; but the last one, I started as soon as it opened, did something more productive for an hour, went to finish and it was already up to it's quota.

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                • Wink73
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 26

                  #18
                  Originally posted by seedman View Post
                  I got the same survey on Jan14. Read the Preamble...something along the lines of; "Assume for this survey that wind turbines are not ecologically harmful to birds or wild life; That cost of infrastructre to construct and maintatin these units is not an issue, that aesthetics on the landscape aren't a consideration, and that noise generated by them isn't an issue..." on and on. What kind of an accurate survey are they going to get if they make you NOT consider the realities of what they are discussing? To me, it sounded like an NDP sanctioned survey that will come out and say "In our last survey done by Kynetec Reasearch, 94% of respondants are in favor of the windmills and not one respondant had anything negative to say about their presence the landscape, and our study CONCLUSIVELY proves that the beneifts FAR outweigh the small negative aspects of wind generated power.
                  I let them have it in the last page for final comments. I basically told them based on this survey I just completed, I will NEVER trust a survey conducted by Kynetec as they are loading the survey before it is even completed, making it innacurate and corrupt, just like those they are doing the survey for. Probably not going to get any more surveys from them, but oh well...
                  Bingo, that was the most contrived survey I think I’ve ever completed. My comments section was full as well. No love for wind turbines here. I do other surveys for them and a couple other companies if remuneration is $40 plus. Helps pay for my expensive internet....

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                  • blackpowder
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 9333

                    #19
                    No phones anymore.
                    Email, delete!
                    However, this week's caught my eye.
                    I bit and started it. Interesting to see what the powers that be are up to.
                    This one was about social license in agriculture. By some professor. An eery foretelling I thought. Couldn't even finish it, it was so unanswerable at times. Chemicals, GMOs, writings on the wall boys. Take a lesson from the oil game this last generation.

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