Saskatoon seed royalty meeting

[Guest]

I wonder if the greedy pricks have considered that maybe no one will grow the shit if there is no money in it ???
other than wheat midge tolerant , they haven't acclomplished sfa , and made it a lot more succepptable to fus
every new variety yields 2 or 3 % more than the one before ?
it's a ****ing joke

[iceman]

Exactly SF3. We pay for and develop some great variety and Russian millers order 10 container because of it “excellent milling qualities” and low and behold they are a major exporter of that variety in 2 yrs. Look no further than lentils and Kazakhstan. Oh but wait there is staving kids in the world how self centred of me.

Oh course secan, Canterra and PF are for this. The seed majors will come down on this space and buy them all out for a healthy amount.

Follow the money.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Exactly SF3. We pay for and develop some great variety and Russian millers order 10 container because of it “excellent milling qualities” and low and behold they are a major exporter of that variety in 2 yrs. Look no further than lentils and Kazakhstan. Oh but wait there is staving kids in the world how self centred of me.

Is sterilized seed a possibility? In the event that this farmer funding results in super varieties, for example, the holy grail, and wheat that can fix nitrogen, providing Canadian farmers with a significant COP advantage over our competition who don't have access to it, could we protect that variety from being stolen by other countries? Sterilize it before export, or seed that is sterile naturally(an obvious oxymoron, and logistical complication). It would be easier to justify paying for it, even in perpetuity, if it genuinely gives us a unique advantage.

[wd9]

vvalk going to return to answer questions?

[farmaholic]

Sounds like the WCWGA is on the side of change, is freedom and choice an option for the freedom and choice crusaders in regards to the options? Which model? I prefer the "**** you" model. Not the lesser of two evils model. Off patent varieties, should they ever be able to be de-registered? Do they really ever put Canada's quality reputation at risk? I bet terminal blending risks our reputation more than varieties. Start buying on spec... falling number, protien, test weight and moisture and variety quality will sort itself out. But instead the rules have been and are being put in place in advance of our limited options choice.

I can't wrap my head around how a grain producer could advocate for greater costs without guarantees of greater benefits.

WCWGA, free marketers my ass.... Industry knob gobbling lapdogs more like it.

[the big wheel]

Sounds like the WCWGA is on the side of change, is freedom and choice an option for the freedom and choice crusaders in regards to the options? Which model? I prefer the "**** you" model. Not the lesser of two evils model. Off patent varieties, should they ever be able to be de-registered? Do they really ever put Canada's quality reputation at risk? I bet terminal blending risks our reputation more than varieties. Start buying on spec... falling number, protien, test weight and moisture and variety quality will sort itself out. But instead the rules have been and are being put in place in advance of our limited options choice.

I can't wrap my head around how a grain producer could advocate for greater costs without guarantees of greater benefits.

WCWGA, free marketers my ass.... Industry knob gobbling lapdogs more like it.

Very TRUE!!

[bucket]

Sounds like the WCWGA is on the side of change, is freedom and choice an option for the freedom and choice crusaders in regards to the options? Which model? I prefer the "**** you" model. Not the lesser of two evils model. Off patent varieties, should they ever be able to be de-registered? Do they really ever put Canada's quality reputation at risk? I bet terminal blending risks our reputation more than varieties. Start buying on spec... falling number, protien, test weight and moisture and variety quality will sort itself out. But instead the rules have been and are being put in place in advance of our limited options choice.

I can't wrap my head around how a grain producer could advocate for greater costs without guarantees of greater benefits.

WCWGA, free marketers my ass.... Industry knob gobbling lapdogs more like it.

Geez ...thats as harsh as my "you dumb ****" comment ....be careful farmaholic.. you will be labelled a jealous coffee shop farmer by those elite 4th generation farmers that had daddy doing the work while they pranced around smelling politicians farts....lol...

[Guest]

Is sterilized seed a possibility? In the event that this farmer funding results in super varieties, for example, the holy grail, and wheat that can fix nitrogen, providing Canadian farmers with a significant COP advantage over our competition who don't have access to it, could we protect that variety from being stolen by other countries? Sterilize it before export, or seed that is sterile naturally(an obvious oxymoron, and logistical complication). It would be easier to justify paying for it, even in perpetuity, if it genuinely gives us a unique advantage.

they have it already , it's called the terminator gene

[bucket]

they have it already , it's called the terminator gene

And there is plenty of guys that are growing RR wheat....if it was ever researched here the genie is out of the bottle.....

Similar process as Triffid flax....ten years later it was found...

[wd9]

they have it already , it's called the terminator gene

What you are referring to is Genetic Use Restriction Technology (GURTS). It would solve so many problems like volunteers, adventitious presence issues, no TUA's etc but it died in '05 as just one more way that Monsanto was going to control the worlds food population and the successful consumer fear campaign of the organic industry to keep ag locked into 1967.

Are you there vvalk?

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/plants/plants-with-novel-traits/general-public/gurts/eng/1337406710213/1337406801948 http://www.inspection.gc.ca/plants/plants-with-novel-traits/general-public/gurts/eng/1337406710213/1337406801948