Merry Christmas American Farmer

[bigzee]

American growers got a subsidy gift from the Trump Administration...the
second half of the Market Facilitation Payments (MFP), with the full payment
amounting to a US $1.62/bu on 100% of soybean production in 2018. How nice
for them...leaving Canadian growers envious.

Somewhat positive for us with this massive $7+ billion subsidy for US
soybean growers...might keep additional US beans off the market as farmers
are now armed with cash to take a wait-and-see approach on further marketing.

Not a big Trump supporter but at least he’s looking at the well being of his ag sector. Our clown 🤡 wouldnt fight a fly for us, what a useless piece of sheet.
We have to give our products away for pennies, looks like we will be heading into spring with the highest inputs per acre, and the lowest commodity prices seen in years.

[bucket]

American growers got a subsidy gift from the Trump Administration...the
second half of the Market Facilitation Payments (MFP), with the full payment
amounting to a US $1.62/bu on 100% of soybean production in 2018. How nice
for them...leaving Canadian growers envious.

Somewhat positive for us with this massive $7+ billion subsidy for US
soybean growers...might keep additional US beans off the market as farmers
are now armed with cash to take a wait-and-see approach on further marketing.

Not a big Trump supporter but at least he’s looking at the well being of his ag sector. Our clown 🤡 wouldnt fight a fly for us, what a useless piece of sheet.
We have to give our products away for pennies, looks like we will be heading into spring with the highest inputs per acre, and the lowest commodity prices seen in years.

The rest of the story.....

Trudeau admitted to regrets on the INDIA trip.....
Trudeau Has reduced Saudi Investments and purchases by his ignorance...
Trudeau will end up using farmers as collateral damage with the CHINA incident...

Trudeau has done a lot of things wrong for our industry while ....

Trump has helped farmers ...
MODI in INDIA is setting up to write of farm loans...


Meanwhile we are suppose to compete with zero help from the government while every other capitalist industry is on the taxpayer's dime...

[SASKFARMER3]

The cost of the India **** up

Ex. 50 peas x 2.50 a bushel drop x 1000 acres as a example is $125,000.00

Thank a liberal.

But the biggest drop is canola should be a buck higher with our poor yields in western canada.

This happened the day trump announced the subsidy.

Why pay when the gov will cough it up.

Soy dropped by that amount and the retarded sister followed.

But for us we eat that.

Ex 50 x 1.00 x 5000 = $250000.00

Ouch.

Yep farming it’s a winner in canada.

We’re collateral damage that no governemt cares about.

To all who don’t remember the 80s here we go again.

[fjlip]

We export 80% of production, 35 million can not afford to pay us. This is NOT SM, way too much supply. We are doomed to compete with NO support. Less than 2% are in primary agriculture...no votes, no lobby power.

[SASKFARMER3]

That’s what we were told in the 80s but yet oil gets 1.6 to study markets.

We get told welcome to a seed tax.

[countryguy]

We export 80% of production, 35 million can not afford to pay us. This is NOT SM, way too much supply. We are doomed to compete with NO support. Less than 2% are in primary agriculture...no votes, no lobby power.

It truly baffles me why we are the ones producing the only one thing on this earth that people NEED to exist but yet have no kind of clout on this earth.

[sumdumguy]

I think farmers have the power, just need the will to demonstrate, in a big way.

[grassfarmer]

So are you all for abandoning the "free market" philosophy in favour of going the Government intervention/subsidy route?

[Oliver88]

We are not competing on an even playing field so there isn’t a free market battling with subsidies.

Trudeau, David Suzuki Society and the NFU want to give a huge carbon tax for Christmas.

WCWGA and the seed industry are promoting a seed tax for the seed industry,

[grassfarmer]

There never was a level playing field in agriculture, that's an illusion - so are you going to keep touting the benefits of the "free market" or going to start lobbying for more Government intervention and subsidy. That's what I was asking.

[the big wheel]

We are not competing on an even playing field so there isn’t a free market battling with subsidies.

Trudeau, David Suzuki Society and the NFU want to give a huge carbon tax for Christmas.

WCWGA and the seed industry are promoting a seed tax for the seed industry,

Until you admit that it doesn't matter what government is in us farmers have no one representing us we will lose more and more power. If there is any left to lose.
But sumdum is right if we got off our asses and stopped petty politics and make some noise we still hold the cards. Imagine picking one company out of a hat to not deliver grain to? Or one input company out of a hat not to buy inputs from unless we get some of our demands.

[chuckChuck]

Trump raises the temperature on a trade war and US farmers become collateral damage. He throws US soybean farmers some compensation to make sure they don't stop voting for him.

The US is running nearly a trillion dollar deficit. None of what he is doing is sustainable nor fits with a free market philosophy in which capital and jobs go to where the best profits are.

Conservatives in the US and Canada seem to be abandoning their support for free markets and less government intervention and are arguing for more government intervention in the economy to protect industries that are not competitive.

There is a lot of complaining on this site about corporations whose job it is to maximize profits for shareholders. Farmers shouldn't be surprised when they get squeezed by a "free" market system that many support in principle.