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    #16
    The goals of the UN and NWO might be even more nefarious. Stop first world population growth by climate change guilt and then move the remaining world population around to fill in. Isnt this exactly whats happening.
    Last edited by jazz; Dec 7, 2018, 08:58.

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      #17
      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      The goals of the UN and NWO might be even more nefarious. Stop first world population growth by climate change guilt and then move the remaining world population around to fill in. Isnt this exactly whats happening.
      Population growth and Migration to the Americas really took off after Europeans colonized the Americas. Without migration what would be here now? You and I wouldn't be here.

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        #18
        "Without migration what would be here now? " If all news can be believed, a few very happy, satisfied, non abused, non scooped, natives living out their perfect culture, totally GREEN, non fossil fuel burning, organic, non chemical existence. Your ideal?

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          #19
          Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
          Actually, birth rates fall as living standard goes up.
          And by denying the third world access to cheap reliable energy, these same eco terrorists have condemned them to subsistence existence/farming, with high birthrates and high infant mortality rates where many children are required, and the cycle will continue indefinitely. You know, kind of like where we were at before harnessing fossil fuel energy.

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            #20
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Population growth and Migration to the Americas really took off after Europeans colonized the Americas. Without migration what would be here now? You and I wouldn't be here.

            My family weren't migrants, they were pioneers. There is a huge difference.

            Anyone willing to sit in a sod hut in the middle of nowhere and try to break and farm marginal land is totally welcome.
            Last edited by jazz; Dec 7, 2018, 10:32.

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              #21
              I heard the cbc show , too and a lot of silly opinions , came out.
              My view was they would regret those ideas.
              If you listened to the end , the experts thought they were silly too.

              I equate world population to the number of cats on the farm.
              You can have half a dozen , no problem, everybody eats , gets along,
              Lots of mice to eat.etc.
              Make that number 20-30 ,
              All hell breaks lose.
              Starvation , fighting ,disease.

              We barely replace ourselves here.

              Just have to give the developing and third world good reasons not to have as many children

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                #22
                Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post

                Just have to give the developing and third world good reasons not to have as many children
                How about offering them the opportunity for prosperity, such as the one our ancestors had thanks to cheap reliable energy, instead of relying on human and animal power.

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                  #23
                  Chuck chuck and other earth muffins.....if you want to depopulate the earth and save the polar bears I have a idea. Introduce a few of them cuddly coke slurping polar bears to places like Vancouver Toronto LA and let them feast on socialists. It’s a win win.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Austranada View Post
                    Don't catch affluenza , don't have to pay for the vaccine, it's that simple. It's past my bedtime, will enjoy reading the whining in the morning while I drink my organic coffee sweetened with Canadian Organic maple syrup and whitened with organic milk.
                    Yourself and UpChuck are apparently farmers or so you say and as such are obviously suffering affluenza if you have more than 1 quarter of land and a house , here's an idea for you since you don't really need all that land to survive you can donate all the rest of your holdings to migrant families that just want a chance to work hard and be apart of the affluent world. It has to start somewhere , show us what being true humanitarians are all about. You could even provide power for them with your solar panels and windmills just so they don't have too much trouble adjusting to their new homestead .

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                      #25
                      Well when you watched the recent George Bush (41) funeral did you catch any of the views of the family picture portraits.

                      Only the Former President Bush (41) offspring in the picture and it took a fairly wide angle lens to get them in one frame.

                      Now that shows the power of adding to the worlds population.

                      Start with two people and by the time the great great grandfathers are in the grave and you have how many times as many relatives???????


                      More power to any broadcasting company who has the courage to report this problem of getting too many people on the planet. Surely there are no deniers that this puts additional stress on what the world can stand.

                      But I'm not so sure all the ones calling for decreased CO2 footprints are doing all the right things in their crusade.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        You missed the point. Un-controlled population growth is not sustainable.

                        Some of our extra resource use is due to our northern climate. But the US is not all northern.

                        Developed countries use more resources per capita because they have the economic power to do so. There is a lot of unnecessary waste in the developed countries.

                        We live in a consumer culture where we buy a lot of crap we don't need.
                        Hmm?...sounds like crap envy to me ChuckChuck

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