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  • furrowtickler
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 21870

    Carbon tax , UPOV 91

    This is from Sask crop planing guide .......


    Point being , every crop listed there is a money loser at fairly realistic numbers ..
    so add the cost a carbon tax and higher seed costs for UPOV91 to those loses.
    So I ask again , where does this money come from ??
    Not included in the above numbers is the massive drilling costs and extra handling cost from the past fall .... add that on as well .
    The fact is no one cares , they all want to just collect more money while ignoring the fact that a lot of farms will be in the red this year. Every one in the industry and government feels it’s their right to extract more and more from the primary producers... well , the above chart proves what some of us are saying for a while ..... we are tapped out ... enough is enough.
    Land values are not a reflection of net income any more ... but unfortunately these big land values are sending bad signals to every level including government. It’s a very false indicator of the current situations
  • bucket
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 17024

    #2
    57 bpa is 1.55 an acre in end point royalty....

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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 21870

      #3
      “Drying costs .... not drilling cost .”.
      anyway , just pointing out there is no room for extra hands in the wallets of primary producers.

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      • hobbyfrmr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 3178

        #4
        Somebody will figure out how to make it up on the volume.🙂

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        • Wink73
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2018
          • 26

          #5
          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
          This is from Sask crop planing guide .......


          Point being , every crop listed there is a money loser at fairly realistic numbers ..
          so add the cost a carbon tax and higher seed costs for UPOV91 to those loses.
          So I ask again , where does this money come from ??
          Not included in the above numbers is the massive drilling costs and extra handling cost from the past fall .... add that on as well .
          The fact is no one cares , they all want to just collect more money while ignoring the fact that a lot of farms will be in the red this year. Every one in the industry and government feels it’s their right to extract more and more from the primary producers... well , the above chart proves what some of us are saying for a while ..... we are tapped out ... enough is enough.
          Land values are not a reflection of net income any more ... but unfortunately these big land values are sending bad signals to every level including government. It’s a very false indicator of the current situations
          Great post Furrow. Margins are razor thin as is, add in some weather drama and it’s even worse. Farms don’t need any more add-on costs.

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          • helmsdale
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 2127

            #6
            And yet, we have those among us, that just can't help but take on more land, or re-tool the machine shed, or better yet, build a new 100x600 machine shed that requires filling...

            If you just spread those fixed costs over more acres it'll take care of itself! Or so I've heard...

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            • ajl
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 3245

              #7
              What fungicide are they spraying for $40 per acre? Then you don't rent land capable of those yields for $55 an acre around here but otherwise fairly realistic. Can realize a higher price here than that but need to include drying costs. If you figure capital costs properly, most farms including mine lost money in 2018.

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              • farmaholic
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 17478

                #8
                Originally posted by ajl View Post
                What fungicide are they spraying for $40 per acre? Then you don't rent land capable of those yields for $55 an acre around here but otherwise fairly realistic. Can realize a higher price here than that but need to include drying costs. If you figure capital costs properly, most farms including mine lost money in 2018.
                ....two apps?

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                • jazz
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2018
                  • 9308

                  #9
                  Who makes this stuff up. Sure margins are tight but $100 an acre in chem applications. WTF Who does that.

                  Interesting to note machine depreciation outpaces machine investment. Guess wheat has to be grown with 30 yr old equipment.
                  Last edited by jazz; Dec 7, 2018, 08:37.

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                  • fjlip
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 9801

                    #10
                    Machine investment is the interest cost on market value of machinery. At 2-3% could be a shed full of flipped? Auction values lowering that daily.
                    Last edited by fjlip; Dec 7, 2018, 09:33.

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