Could we be done?

[makar]

Referring to the north will get er in, not happening any time soon.

[farmaholic]

Beaverdam.... sorry for the delayed response but I had to look at the plan to know exactly how much the easement(ROW) was..... 12 meters.

Checking..... No I have never heard of anyone allowing access without an easement agreement, but that doesn't mean it never happened, just that I'm not aware of it.


They have started to space the last two pipes further apart than the first four in the corridor.

The temporary workspace, 7 year crop loss, and disturbance, and linear payment added up to about 18 times the easement consideration.

They want happy landowners. They need somewhere to put these things and a bunch of co-operative landowners along an already existing corridor is probably easier to maintain than to convince a whole new set of landowners that a pipeline across their property is a good idea. Oh boy.... here we go....

It is quite the sight to see.... and knowing all the hoops and hurdles and obstacles, of every kind imaginable, it is amazing a pipeline can get built. And where is TransMountain and Energy East??? enough said!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Do you have a big enough power service to run fans on all the bins at the same time? If most of the grain came off at 17-20% the fans need to run a long time on each bin.

I am working myself towards more bins with aeration, but limited in power. Trying to future plan a little.

I found the limit last fall. 5 of 5 HP fans going at once caused the transformer to melt down. Power company claims I can run more now with an upgraded transformer, if I ever get enough grain off to need that many fans I will find out.

[westernvicki]

The 50bpa crop now in the field may be a 30bpa crop in the spring and worth more in spring of 2019....

harvest less make more....

Still its no consolation that no one is paying attention....

Its' a testimony our the focus of our nation, we have just change short of 5 billion in crop stranded in the fields and national media is not noticing. 5 billion is a big number in any industry, and here it has a personal face, the farmer. NO one wants to cover the speculation that BC declaring itself a disaster zone in August due to forest fires is a large part as to why we are experiencing the same in October. Heaven forbid.

So grinding & painful as each day is, no one is paying attention. Misery lacks attention, for now. 5 billion in crop in the field is a large number, but a sedentary number, boring in fact, to the news media & not nearly as news worthy Trump, or a a storm, pick one, or several.

And maybe as Bucket says the silver lining is that this harvest will rally grain prices, after all their was a drought Europe which is part of the equation too.

But its -12 this Am, we had 6 to 8 inchs of snow Thanksgiving Monday. WE are looking for global warming, hope it shows its face in November. In 69 much of the crop was harvested in November.

[grassfarmer]

It is quite the sight to see.... and knowing all the hoops and hurdles and obstacles, of every kind imaginable, it is amazing a pipeline can get built. And where is TransMountain and Energy East??? enough said!

It's going through a bit north of me. With all the machinery working it's like being back in AB again.
It's said they are paying $40 a bale for straw to spread on the surface once they put the soil back - so drought stressed ranchers are competing with the oil patch.

[farmaholic]

It's going through a bit north of me. With all the machinery working it's like being back in AB again.
It's said they are paying $40 a bale for straw to spread on the surface once they put the soil back - so drought stressed ranchers are competing with the oil patch.

Ya it is lucrative for anyone who had alot of straw they were willing to bale off their land. The price you quoted is about $10 cheaper than the value talked about here. Depending on anyone's opinion, it is either a good or bad thing, but it is a one off situation.

[sumdumguy]

Do you have a big enough power service to run fans on all the bins at the same time? If most of the grain came off at 17-20% the fans need to run a long time on each bin.

I am working myself towards more bins with aeration, but limited in power. Trying to future plan a little.

We can run 3 x 10 hp fans and a couple of 5’s at the same time. The grain dried down pretty fast in August. Some grain went straight to elevator when they took 15-16 for dry.

[bucket]

Ya it is lucrative for anyone who had alot of straw they were willing to bale off their land. The price you quoted is about $10 cheaper than the value talked about here. Depending on anyone's opinion, it is either a good or bad thing, but it is a one off situation.

There is no shortage of feed or straw....for cowboys...instead of the government using that tax exemption they could make a program that allows ranchers to go bale the garbage crops...between having them written off by crop insurance and then baled ...there is a better solution than selling the cows and calves immediately...

[checking]

Farmaholic.

I don't like the term "easement". It's too close to the term "ownership" so to avoid the vocabulary the insistence is that it must be replace with the term "miscellaneous interest". No one has had any problem switching up the wording.

I look at it this way, would someone rather be referred to as a "porn star", or a "prostitute". (lol

Were you around when the first of your six corridor lines were put in, or in other words, do they show up on an aerial map in a dry year?

[poorboy]

We can run 3 x 10 hp fans and a couple of 5’s at the same time. The grain dried down pretty fast in August. Some grain went straight to elevator when they took 15-16 for dry.

So what percentage of your bins could you run fans on at once? I have had aeration for years, but only use it for cooling grain. Move 1 fan around and cool 1 bin at a time. Does not cut it for natural air drying. Been talking for the power company and the bigger the power service, the bigger the monthly service charge. Ranges from $250 to 600/ month for the power service even if no electricity is used. Add in the electricity cost to the monthly fees and natural air drying is not free.

Trying to figure out if I need power available for 1/3 or 1/2 or 2/3, etc of my bins at once. I assume that if you start harvest at 17-20% moisture in crop that is just barely mature that the crop keeps needing air bins as you harvest. Slightly different than if you are harvesting grain that was fully cured and dry but got a rain shower and now tough. Usually the rained on crop will turn dry a day later (talking a normal harvest situation for the southern prairies).

Too late to really help for this year, but the thread talks about "could we be done" and I know in my case that I could be much closer to being done if I had a better natural air drying system.

[sumdumguy]

So what percentage of your bins could you run fans on at once? I have had aeration for years, but only use it for cooling grain. Move 1 fan around and cool 1 bin at a time. Does not cut it for natural air drying. Been talking for the power company and the bigger the power service, the bigger the monthly service charge. Ranges from $250 to 600/ month for the power service even if no electricity is used. Add in the electricity cost to the monthly fees and natural air drying is not free.

Trying to figure out if I need power available for 1/3 or 1/2 or 2/3, etc of my bins at once. I assume that if you start harvest at 17-20% moisture in crop that is just barely mature that the crop keeps needing air bins as you harvest. Slightly different than if you are harvesting grain that was fully cured and dry but got a rain shower and now tough. Usually the rained on crop will turn dry a day later (talking a normal harvest situation for the southern prairies).

Too late to really help for this year, but the thread talks about "could we be done" and I know in my case that I could be much closer to being done if I had a better natural air drying system.

We used to use and still have two flat-bottom perforated floor set-ups, they worked ok but now the rest of the bins are hoppers with verticle rockets to push the air up the middle. I think that and oversizing the fan has really made a difference during our harvest this year, for sure. We wouldn’t have been going without the air but saying that, pretty well everyone (but not all) around us is done too. We have two yards where we were aerating pretty well every day in August. In 4-5 days uncured durum would come down from 16-17% down to dry in 3-4 days. Our neighbour, a stellar example used to say good aeration easily replaces one Class 8 combine and manpower.

[MBgrower]

all bins full floor aeartion and fan mounted on each, moving fans around was a pain in the ass. had to increase electrical serviced over the years, but now i can run more fans (5, 7, and 10 hps) at once than i need to.

[poorboy]

all bins full floor aeartion and fan mounted on each, moving fans around was a pain in the ass. had to increase electrical serviced over the years, but now i can run more fans (5, 7, and 10 hps) at once than i need to.

So what % of your bins do you think you would need to have fans running on at the same time? I am thinking that 25% of my grain storage to have fans running at once would be good, as that would give me 1 week for each bin and hopefully be done in 4 weeks. Just not sure if it is realistic or not. Trying to decide how big a power service to get a quote on or if I should just buy a few big gensets and run them for 1-2 weeks per year and get a smaller power service put into the yard. Running 25% of my fans at once is a much different power requirement than trying to run 50% of my bins at the same time.

Are 2 smaller fans better than 1 big fan on some bins, so that I could be natural air drying 2 bins at once with 5 hp fans instead of 1 bin with a 10 hp for example. Would still need a few bins with big fans for grain that comes off later in the year when more airflow is necessary?

I do agree that having a fan permanetly mounted on each bin would be very nice and that is my goal.