So if supply management issue will save Canada then why not?

[westernvicki]

Why we can kill Canada to save dairy: 12,000 diary farmers: 50% live in Quebec, saw these numbers the other day. The reason why Andrew Sheer and Justin Trudeau are twins on this file. Only Maxime, disagees. Go milk! Go milk the system.

[grassfarmer]

What's been missing from this long and twisting thread is the political angle. Dramatic talk about "saving Canada" by ditching SM. Really though? while having a NAFTA agreement makes some difference to trade in Canada it's by no means the end of the country if we didn't have one at all.
Even if consensus is we do need a NAFTA agreement, and we conceded SM tomorrow does anybody believe everything would be hunky dory and Trump would be delighted to sign a deal on all the other aspects of NAFTA?
The latest figures posted here of there being 6000 SM farmers in Quebec that are so important to both parties fortunes - there are over 6 million on the electoral register in Quebec so it's inconceivable that the actual 6000 votes will make a difference.
Really it's much ado about nothing. Not a big issue other than a few opportunists trying to capitalize on the situation to bring about change because it suits their agenda. A few in the processing sector would like to see SM end and it seems a lot of jealous other farmers would too.

[westernvicki]

Amazing what the nations leaders will do to defend "much to do about nothing!".

[Sheepwheat]

so that non SM farmer can directly compete against them? I guess you want them to end up like all other ag commodities who are struggling while processors and retailer make all the money .

I thought I made it clear that there is zero competition with what it is I am putting forth.

Regarding supplying the quota folks with a business model? They don’t buy into my model, so it is impossible to get quota for someone like me. My model does not include indoor housing, plans to expand to x thousand birds, etc. etc., raising birds, gasp! Outdoors and feeding unconventional feeds, and they frown on this it seems.

One more time. I am not producing the same product. Why then, should I be stifled from the business? As far as the chicken turkey farmers are concerned, my product may as well be grease guns. It is not the same, commodity poultry and eggs that I am talking about!

Farmaholic, you do seem to see what I am saying. I didn’t think it was that complicated! 😆

[Guest]

why are the processors allowed to inject water into chicken ??? that pisses me off paying for water that runs outta the meat ?

[westernvicki]

If supply management is such a fair & wonderful institution, why is the largess not distributed equitably: why does Quebec with less population than Ontario get more quota and 4 times the quota than Alberta with 1/2 the population of Quebec?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_farming_in_Canada
If we are defending this institution; then we should take a careful look at what the statistics tell us.

[Oliver88]

Why are all you guys grinning over half a million to 750,000 quarter sections and then bitching about "cost of entry" into a supply managed sector?
It's nothing more than envy.

Where in Sask are land prices actually that high?

[Klause]

Where in Sask are land prices actually that high?

Regina, Moose Jaw, Swift Current, Abbey/Cabri

That hilly poor land west of Humboldt that doesn't grow much unless it rains 10 inches a year is going for $320,000/quarter.

North of Humboldt Land is trading at half a million plus.

[Klause]

I thought I made it clear that there is zero competition with what it is I am putting forth.

Regarding supplying the quota folks with a business model? They don’t buy into my model, so it is impossible to get quota for someone like me. My model does not include indoor housing, plans to expand to x thousand birds, etc. etc., raising birds, gasp! Outdoors and feeding unconventional feeds, and they frown on this it seems.

One more time. I am not producing the same product. Why then, should I be stifled from the business? As far as the chicken turkey farmers are concerned, my product may as well be grease guns. It is not the same, commodity poultry and eggs that I am talking about!

Farmaholic, you do seem to see what I am saying. I didn’t think it was that complicated! 😆

So you want to run free range chickens.

You can run 999 of those, without quota or regulation. You say you donèt want to run thousands of chickens... So what exactly do you want...

It's not like you're going to run 3,000 chicken free range in north eastern SK...


Startup program for new farmers...
http://lait.org/en/our-organization/aidedemarrage/ http://lait.org/en/our-organization/aidedemarrage/

Quebec has a majority of dairies because climate is conducive for it... And the French make a lot of cheese... Itès what they are good at like Saskatchewan is good at growing wheat.

Somehow, we out here are more worried about something that doesnèt affect us... instead of say worrying about loosing our grading system and quality advantage completely in the new NAFTA (westernvicki, wanna look into that?)

Also why didn't we get some Geographical identifiers in CETA... Like Saskatchewan Lentils or durum... or Alberta rye?? Asleep at the wheel as usual.

[Klause]

Hey sheepwheat....


http://www.saskegg.ca/on-the-farm/become-an-egg-farmer http://www.saskegg.ca/on-the-farm/become-an-egg-farmer