"Trailing farm-saved seed contracts"

[farming101]

http://saskwheat.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Sask-Wheat-Refund-Request-2017-18.pdf http://saskwheat.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Sask-Wheat-Refund-Request-2017-18.pdf

[agstar77]

Manitoba pulse doesn't post refund procedure on their website . You must apply for a refund form twice a year.

[Oliver88]

Interesting article in the last Western Producer on how seed breeders want to get some returns out of farmer's use of their farm raised seed. So apparently when we buy a protected seed variety we will have to sign a contract that might require us to either pay a royalty per pound on what we seed or on a per acre basis. Keep in mind this is all in the proposal stage but I have no doubt it is coming. What are everybody's thoughts?

Greedy bastards.
Another example of things that are wrong with the industry.

[farmaholic]

Greedy bastards.
Another example of things that are wrong with the industry.

****...I can't believe it O88, you took the thoughts right out of my mind....those were the exact two words I was going to post earlier today.

It's almost hard to believe to what depth the Industry will sink. Is there no shame in unfettered Capitalism. No guilt?

UPOV91..."the right for Producers to use farm saved seed...."at an additional cost to the original purchase"?

Do you have to send Sony a cheque every year to continue watching the tv they built? Do you pay the auto makers a yearly fee to drive the vehicle you bought?

Where does this horse shit end?

So does that mean you might have to give them money to use farm saved seed AND pay royalties upon delivery of the grain you grew? The first part seems to be a stretch...and hard to police. But if they float the idea of doing both but only enforce delivery royalties you will think you got a "deal".

But I do want to add two more words to my original thought...

**** OFF greedy bastards.

[sumdumguy]

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How do seed growers claim the rights? Farmers and governments have paid for the research. Buzz off!

[TOM4CWB]

Tom4cwb has been a huge supporter of this for at least 3 years ..... one of the reasons he bailed on here ... some of us called him out .
This is not going away . The cost of seed with cereals is about to go up 2-4 X at least.
Thank Tom and his supporters

Thanks Furrow. YOUR post and representations...are why.
Bless You and Yours... Hope you have a safe harvest and enough to put food on the table and keep warm. As usual... Greed and Evil know no boundaries. Redemption has a cost... Desecration is the better part of Valour.

[farmaholic]

I don't think the seed growers have the "most" to gain. It would be the companies who own the "rights" to the seed. But in saying that I wouldn't say the seed growers have nothing to gain either.

Hello Tom.

[furrowtickler]

Thanks Furrow. YOUR post and representations...are why.
Bless You and Yours... Hope you have a safe harvest and enough to put food on the table and keep warm. As usual... Greed and Evil know no boundaries. Redemption has a cost... Desecration is the better part of Valour.

What does greed and evil have to do with my post ?? Other than the greed and evil is alive and well in the industry, as proven by the first post by Hamloc.
Everyone thinks they deserve to dig deeper and deeper into the primary producers pocket and we are expected never to say anything???
Good luck with you as well , and “Don’t give no lines and keep your hands to yourself” ......

[TOM4CWB]

What does greed and evil have to do with my post ?? Other than the greed and evil is alive and well in the industry, as proven by the first post by Hamloc.
Everyone thinks they deserve to dig deeper and deeper into the primary producers pocket and we are expected never to say anything???
Good luck with you as well , and “Don’t give no lines and keep your hands to yourself” ......

Hmmm...
"keep your hands to yourself”. Amen.
So don't take others technology and genetics... without paying. Cheers.

[bucket]

Hmmm...
"keep your hands to yourself”. Amen.
So don't take others technology and genetics... without paying. Cheers.

Hold on a second....R&D is paid for with the public's money....along with a hefty railway overcharging goes into the same fund....then there is the checkoffs. .....

The technology and genetics is public domain....

What are you talking about Tom?

I , for one, am getting sick of people that use public/taxpayer money to develop something and then claim it as their own to profit from...

Lets put you seed breeders in the same group as Bombardier that extracts public money without paying it back....

You get taxpayer money to develop new seed , sell it at stupid prices, and none goes back to the original funders either taxpayers or farmer groups that paid the upfront costs....

And for some ****ing reason never held account for shitshows like RR wheat or triffid flax....

Pay your ****ing cleanup costs or I guess that when you get put in the bankrupt OIL companies class that don't cleanup their messes after getting sweetheart royalty deals....

Do you understand ...with greatness comes great responsibility ....

Which costed more ...developing Triffid flax or paying for the cleanup??? And guess who paid both?

Hint ....not the ****ing guys that were not to develop it in the first place.

Hey Tom are you the guy that kept some private label wheat seeds for your farm?