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    #41
    4. The positive is farmers grow and own the pulses. Lentils. I noted fine lentils in some of my recent travels. Will farmers need someone dependable to market them besides the one sole marketer that,

    and I'll quote,

    "According to the news of the Republic, Mersin Chief Public Prosecutor's Office has been informed that Mahmut Arslan, Hüseyin Arslan, Hasan Arslan and Ali Arslan can not be found at the addresses of the detainees." Unquote.

    My first thought was about farmers .

    I paid attention to the newspaper quote even though I read where someone sloughed it off as fake news. Except the media in Turkey did not. The ramifications are too expensive for farmers to ignore the stories, aren't they? Pars

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      #42
      Originally posted by parsley View Post
      "In Mersin, Arbel Foods owner Mahmut Arslan, Hüseyin Arslan, Hasan Arslan and Ali Arslan were detained within the scope of the investigation of the FETO investigation.

      According to the news of the Republic, Mersin Chief Public Prosecutor's Office has been informed that Mahmut Arslan, Hüseyin Arslan, Hasan Arslan and Ali Arslan can not be found at the addresses of the detainees.

      The Chief Prosecutor of the Republic also learned that Mahmut Arslan and Hasan Arslan had also conducted an investigation in order to help and abet the terrorist organization PKK.

      Mahmut Arslan, who is one of the founders of Arbel Pulses, was also the President of the Mersin Chamber of Commerce and Industry and Chairman of the Presidium of the Mediterranean Exporters' Unions."
      The internal politics of Turkey are of great interest to red lentil growers. IMO this has less to do with AGT and more to do with internal Turkish politics. Interesting news though. I googled Gülen movement and find it related to the article. Pretty confusing .

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        #43
        I havent read where Huseyin Arslan has made a statement, have you? Of course, I assume he has. One question I would ask from a producers point of view, after reading about both the Clinton and Trudeau Foundations' impenetrable disclosure-protection in place, is if Huseyin Arslan's own corp earnings are protected in a personal trust fund, similar to the aforementioned two. What about producer earnings en route to your bank accounts? Is it accessible? You know better than I that large $numbers require hard, pointed questions.

        Of course the larger industry view, that must be dealt with is whether or not the earnings from pulse crops, in 🇨🇦, are financing ME Terrorists, as so many of the Turkish websites accuse. I'll search a bit later on tonight. In the meantime, my 🌺 need watering. 🙂Pars

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          #44
          I assume Canadian Pulse Producers' Assoc Is scrutinizing and evaluating the media reports in Turkey in order to avoid potential financial losses for producers. What have they told you? Farmers need to have confidence in their sellers. Did everyone receive a report/updates? Pars

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            #45
            What a report about the partners of the businessman of the year?????From Saskpulse????? The guys that developed private label lentils for Katib????


            What are you thinking Parsley?????

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              #46
              Originally posted by parsley View Post
              I assume Canadian Pulse Producers' Assoc Is scrutinizing and evaluating the media reports in Turkey in order to avoid potential financial losses for producers. What have they told you? Farmers need to have confidence in their sellers. Did everyone receive a report/updates? Pars
              You're joking right?


              Or is that sarcasm?


              Our producer organizations are seen in other countries as foolish and operating with the 'undesirables'.


              There's more to this story. Just wait till it comes out... Kazakhstan will be selling more lentils to India. LOL.

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                #47
                Originally posted by bucket View Post
                What a report about the partners of the businessman of the year?????From Saskpulse????? The guys that developed private label lentils for Katib????


                What are you thinking Parsley?????
                Private labels. Well, as long as farmers didn't pay for them...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Klause View Post
                  You're joking right?


                  Or is that sarcasm?


                  Our producer organizations are seen in other countries as foolish and operating with the 'undesirables'.


                  There's more to this story. Just wait till it comes out... Kazakhstan will be selling more lentils to India. LOL.
                  Well, Klause, the Canadian Pulse Growers' Association is called Pulse Canada, methinks.


                  Pulse Canada gets funding & direction from Sask Pulse Growers, Alberta Pulse Growers Commission, Manitoba Pulse and Soybean Growers and Ontario Bean Growers as well as the processors.

                  Plus exporters of Cndn pulses that are members of the Canadian Special Crops Association (CSCA).

                  Read the names again so you know who directs and pays for Pulse Canada. And then I have a question.

                  Pulse Canada says on it's website:

                  Quote "Pulse Canada aims to to provide help where it is needed most.. In our agriculture! We organise meetings and are very vocal in our ways of preventing logging and the destruction of our wonderful land" unquote

                  My question is this: which producer orgs, or exporters told Pulse Canada and paid Pulse Canada to start lobbying against logging? Who made & seconded the motion in each prov org to support this policy? Ask for a copy of the minutes. Note who dissented.

                  This is a genuine shit show. And I'll bet farmers don't know what their money is used for.

                  But your producer org directors sure the hell do. and the directors who voted for activist lobbying against logging need to be replaced. Yesterday. Pars

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                    #49
                    Pulse Canada is a member of the Canadian Special Crops Association who are supposed to follow
                    A Code of Conduct

                    Note: I personally added ••......•• to encase the parts I'd like you to pay particular attention to:

                    CSCA CODE OF CONDUCT
                    1.1 This Code of Conduct does not take precedence over any national laws but is intended to set a minimum standard of conduct, which all Members are expected to observe both in ••spirit and to the letter••.
                    1.2 Any Member found to have acted contrary to any provision of this Code or any other Code of Conduct or to their spirit may be subjected to ••disciplinary action••

                    .
                    General Code of Conduct For All Members
                    2.1 Members are reminded of their obligation under the Articles of Association to further, to the best of their ability, the ••objects, interests and influence of the Association••.
                    2.2 Members are reminded to comply with the laws and regulations relating to the merchandising, inspection, grading, weighing, storing, and handling and shipment of special crops and pulses.
                    2.3 Members are responsible for any ••acts of employees and sub-contractors••, which may be representing them, which are contrary to any provision of this Code or any other relevant Rules or Codes of Conduct,•• or their spirit••.
                    2.4 CSCA members are committed to ••ethical professional conduct•• and operate in good faith on the premise, “My Word is My Bond”, as per the GAFTA motto.
                    2.5 Members’ and/or their appointed agents’ conduct must be guided by basic rules of professional ethics and common law principles∗. Members will adhere to all applicable laws and regulations, in order to uphold and ••advance the integrity, honor, and dignity of the trading profession.••
                    1.0 General

                    Common Law Principles
                    1. The common law is based on the Golden Rule of Ethnics of Reciprocity, which states: Do unto others as you would have done unto you;
                    And the Negative Golden Rule, which states:
                    Do not do unto others as you would not have others do unto you
                    2. Two fundamental principles of common law:
                    • Do not ••infringe upon the Rights, Freedoms or Property of others••; and
                    • Keep all contracts willingly, knowingly and intentionally.
                    3. These maxims in common law, which include:
                    • That for every wrong there is a remedy
                    • The end does not justify the means;
                    • Fundamental principles cannot be set aside to meet the demands of convenience or to
                    prevent apparent hardship in a particular case;
                    • Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law;
                    • Two wrongs do not make a right, and,
                    Probably the most fundamental right of all is:
                    • One can enlarge the rights of the people, however they cannot be taken away without
                    their ••informed consent••.


                    Farmers are paying for lobbyists against logging, it appears. Stand up and look after you checkoff money. No one else is. Or sign a petition and reduce it. Your directors are useless. Most likely taking holidays on your dime.

                    To repeat, I added •• ........... •• where I wanted you to think about.

                    As always, Pars.

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                      #50
                      You may want to address some of the ••...•••. for example:

                      1. ••objects, interests and influence of the Association••

                      Soooo, when did lobbying against logging, become Pulse Canada's "object"?

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