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    #11
    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Don’t think the actual name matters , it’s obvious what happened and what inexperienced driver was involved.
    Strange .... the obvious things are murky, and the murky things are claimed as obvious. Strange new Canada 🇨🇦.
    Excellent observation furrow. I don’t totally understand it. It’s like some kind of weird deflection from reality. Going forward, a person will have to be on guard for truth/reality vs. media manipulation.

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      #12
      There could be a few people charged with this situation. But let's get justice rolling with the driver..
      It will take yrs no dought.
      Remember the trucker that killed those kids at Spalding?
      Was it 2 yrs before he got sentenced?
      In some cases the old west with the rope and nearest tree was not so bad.

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        #13
        The words "we" and "mandatory" for me are flag words, chuck.

        My guess is people on the road professionally have seen a lot of shady stuff evolve over the last 20 years.
        Not to mention certain groups deal in mostly cash when they can. Think about that before taxpayers are involved in helping them.

        $10 or $15k in training or graduated classes of license involving areas, weights, and distances are good ideas.

        Spending thousands on "training" before I hire someone seasonally who might only earn <$10k, NO.

        One is career training paid by the student, taxpayer, or longer term employer.
        The other is further expense for a small business that adds little value.
        Legislation might encourage common sense but cant enforce or create it.

        Making it legally my fault if a 56 year old career tradesman does not use the safety glasses on the bench
        (I've seen it everyday) doesnt change anything but my own risk.

        No one approaches safety maliciously.
        But no one who has worked in any blue collar industry these last years would say those processes should be carbon copied for a farm.
        That is unless, they don't own one......

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          #14
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          Mandatory training for semi drivers is coming. How fast governments move on this issue will depend on how much push back there is from industry. This will add costs and red tape to farmers as well who will need to train staff and themselves.

          Considering how dangerous farming is, perhaps we need to consider mandatory safety training for farm workers and owners too. While safety has improved on many farms with better equipment and attitudes we still have a long way to go.

          Had to do some bin sampling yesterday. I used to do it without a safety harness. But I have heard of a few guys who have fallen and died or had spinal cord injuries from falls off bins. All it takes is a small slip or feeling faint and your days of farming are over.
          Well isn't that something - you need mandatory training to know what a "STOP" sign means!

          Well maybe, if it meant that you need to know English...

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            #15
            Originally posted by burnt View Post
            Well isn't that something - you need mandatory training to know what a "STOP" sign means!

            Well maybe, if it meant that you need to know English...
            NO KIDDING, 110 hours training to know understand and follow road signs?????? Would have NOT made a difference in this situation! An unbelievable lack of judgement, reckless behavior, MURDERER.

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              #16
              Originally posted by fjlip View Post
              NO KIDDING, 110 hours training to know understand and follow road signs?????? Would have NOT made a difference in this situation! An unbelievable lack of judgement, reckless behavior, MURDERER.
              Yes agreed there is two issues
              First was this a criminal act? To me yes already but let's see the investigation
              Second this act has opened up that there is a further problem of not adequate training or apprenticeship what ever you want to call it or think needs to be done.
              Too many dangerous drivers out there

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                #17
                I am stupid but after the first 6 died at that intersection ....shouldn't something have been done to prevent it from happening again??????

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                  #18
                  The trees should have been gone. And in this case not only from the perspective of the semi driver but the bus driver could have had more time to see if an idiot wasn't slowing down.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hobbyfrmr View Post
                    Excellent observation furrow. I don’t totally understand it. It’s like some kind of weird deflection from reality. Going forward, a person will have to be on guard for truth/reality vs. media manipulation.

                    Fellow farmers, this disaster on April 6, 2018 has put so much in question. It sure makes me more cautious. We need to remind our families/children about defensive driving because this could happen anywhere, anytime. And as for truth and reality in media, we all see where that is going.

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                      #20
                      In summary of The Bigwheels posts since the day he came on, we need more government involvement because we all know you can't trust business as they will screw even old ladies like the big wheel farmers are doing.

                      Life looks simple out of the window of the NDP head office.

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