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That is the best news I've seen in a long time, thanks for the healthy dose of optimism. It is much needed on this April 1st when it was -24C this morning, and still 2 feet of snow on the ground. I get genuinely worried about our livelihood and our investment in farmland in this precarious climate we live in.Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostThe warming effect from CO2 and other greenhouse gases is greater than the cooling effect expected from natural factors. Without human interference, the Earth’s orbit and tilt, a slight decline in solar output since the 1950s and volcanic activity would have led to global cooling. Yet global temperatures are definitely on the rise.
It can therefore be concluded that with CO2 concentrations set to continue to rise, a return to ice age conditions seems very unlikely.
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We agree on something then. A hot, dry May-June and it's another full year of scrimping for expensive feed to go through another winter and hope that it turns around the following year. A 4" deficit of moisture from average halves our production - 4" extra grows us 50% more and that extra is free. 18-24C is our optimum for growing grass - sure it would be nice to be this warm year round but it's not going to happen where we live. Over 25C and we are losing production, over 30C seriously so. This is purely from my grass growing perspective, I realise people growing different crops have different needs.Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View PostI get genuinely worried about our livelihood and our investment in farmland in this precarious climate we live in.
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Ya its ****ing cold outside! Wow. How interesting. When in doubt you can always talk about the weather if you don't agree on anything else! LOL
If you have lived for awhile in Saskatchewan you know that it can be very cold in April and snow in May and that is not news to most of us. And it is irrelevant to discussing global climate change.
Here are a couple of clues in the debate. Global refers to the entire globe not just Saskatchewan or the Prairies. Climate refers to long term weather conditions and trends not the current weather pattern.
For those who can look at the temperature for a day, a week or month in their small part of the world, and then suggest that an ice age is starting is wacky logic, especially when the global temperature and shrinking glaciers trends are clearly showing warming temperatures.
Sorry no vacation SF3 just a break from Agriville. I find that the endless partisan political rants and round and round discussions pretty much a waste of time. There is a core group of Agrivillers who seem to have nothing better to do and if it fills a void go for it. But trying to argue anything with most of the contrarian, curmudgeonly, know it alls on here is a hopeless task. I have found it is better to actually get something productive done. Especially since spring is coming! That is unless the ice age has already started! Then why bother with spring prep?
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All that can be admitted is that the total sum of all past weather patterns has lead to our current global climate. To go beyond that would take a God, or someone with a model, and an agenda. Otherwise, those who believe we are closer to an ice age returning, which also is a belief in climate change, are just as likely to be correct as an a contrarian. The truth is that there is no current money to be made in an ice age returning.
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostThe Saskatchewan government does not deny human caused climate change either!
The US is the only major country in the world who has said they would pull out of the Paris accord. Nicaragua signed on recently and Syria has not. Syria and the US our the only hold outs representing just 4.3% of the worlds population. Syria is certainly an example good leadership. Not! A failed state led by a man who uses chemical weapons on his own people! Hardly an example to the world for anything except a leader who is a despot.
And who is to say the next US government wont recommit? A large number of US States and cities are in agreement with Paris accord.
Hey Chucker - there is a difference between, “are†and “ourâ€. Just thought I would mention.
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The Colombia ice fields are still shrinking and have shrunk 1.5 kilometres (10m per year on average) since 1843. I don't think this qualifies as evidence of an equal chance of global warming or an imminent ice age. Wouldn't you expect glaciers to be at least stable or growing if we are heading into another ice age?
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Yet more reasons to be optimistic about our future. Thank you for bringing hope on Easter,I need that, it is easy to get caught up in all the negativity about climate.Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostThe Colombia ice fields are still shrinking and have shrunk 1.5 kilometres (10m per year on average) since 1843. I don't think this qualifies as evidence of an equal chance of global warming or an imminent ice age. Wouldn't you expect glaciers to be at least stable or growing if we are heading into another ice age?
Wait a minute, doesn't 1843 predate the anthropocene when humans caused all the warming? Must be a typo, we all know Glaciers were stable before CAGW.
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Now why did you have to go and do that, just when I started feeling less depressed about the climate, and you drop this bombshell. Today has been an emotional roller coaster.Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostEspecially since spring is coming! That is unless the ice age has already started! Then why bother with spring prep?
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