Interest rates

[macdon02]

Does everyone remember how fast they dropped to these levels? I'm picturing an island bottom like formation. Don't under estimate how fast they can rise. This pic is regarding US rates.

[errolanderson]

Please take as an opinion, but not a 'hope-in-hell' rates are going to take off.

Bank of Canada rate hikes in 2018 are dead-in-the-water. U.S. Fed talking the story of 4X rate hikes this year . . . simply won't happen (IMO). There is no way at these consumer and gov't massive debt loads.

U.S. public debt astronomical above $21 trillion and accelerating. Gov'ts also must service this staggering debt at higher rates as well. This would crush economies (IMO) . . . .

[tmyrfield]

rates at 4% would hurt a lot of people
rates at 8% would kill the economy
my fear/hope is that canada learn from its past mistakes(peeair) and not try to inflate our way out of debt, because then the only way to stop inflation is to raise interest rates. I started my farming career in late 70's. we thought the party would never stop. growing population, limited land resources, relatively benign climate. peeair brings in NEP, high inflation, high interest rates (18%) huge deficits. I took a whole generation to get past that, not till 2007,08 did land prices even get close to what they were in the early 80's.

Some on here would say that the whole world was experiencing the same problem and that it wasn't the liberals fault....possibly, but peeair did absolutely nothing to alleviate canadas problems and undoubtedly even made them worse. justin and the current liberal caucus don't have the intelligence, experience or skills to even identify the problems much less deal with them. they are Too busy with pride parades, 5 star climate conferences and tropical holidays.

I am at a loss to be able to offer any solutions, smarter guys than me aren't exactly going out on a limb and offering any either. Keep your powder dry and the sharks away from your door is about all I have to offer.

[foragefarmer]

Live within your means, plain and simple!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Errol, What you say is all true and logical, but assumes that the powers that be remain in control of interest rates. If confidence in the government or the currency is lost, They also lose control over interest rates and can only follow the trend not set the trend. Some would argue that that's all they are able to do at the best of times.

[bucket]

Live within your means, plain and simple!

I believe that except that inputs, graincos, railways don't. ...

Tell me why discounted crude oil in western Canada has gas and diesel to be priced where it is?

Tell me why a small farmer with a worn out 4440 that he could afford in 1980 has to mortgage his farm to buy a newer tractor....the ****ing fuel prices are eating up his live within his means....

[Retired]

I believe that except that inputs, graincos, railways don't. ...

Tell me why discounted crude oil in western Canada has gas and diesel to be priced where it is?

Tell me why a small farmer with a worn out 4440 that he could afford in 1980 has to mortgage his farm to buy a newer tractor....the ****ing fuel prices are eating up his live within his means....

Yes but the liberals didnt raise the price so no one cares to bitch,im not defending the libs but that is the reality of agrvillers, just a poor oil co trying to make a living.

[foragefarmer]

'Tell me why a small farmer with a worn out 4440 that he could afford in 1980 has to mortgage his farm to buy a newer tractor....the ****ing fuel prices are eating up his live within his means....'


The point I was making is that some farmers are more than willing to take on extra debt because of low interest rates. Interest rates will go up and there is major risk farms with a heavy debt load will be lost.

I guess to the farmer you're referring to, things are at the breaking point already and the end is very near if those interest rates were to rise. Not being smart and know some guys have had some very unfortunate luck, but that's the reality of farming.

[bucket]

Which way is it forage live within your means now you are saying tough shit for some guys.....


Wtf the guys I describe didn't do anything stupid and are good farmers......fuel and inputs and machinery kicked the shit out of them.....

[FarmJunkie]

Seems to me that we need to have a smarten up period in order to correct the overindulgence of the last ten years. Reality cures stupidity if you allow it to happen. For example without QE where would we be?