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  • bucket
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 17021

    the irony of science

    Been thinking ...imagine that..lol.

    So the science is clear about using methyl bromide is bad for the environment and really is ineffective against bugs we don't have below 5 degrees. And it doesn't work below that temperature. India ignores that science and can't be convinced to use another fumigant.

    On the other hand I am told to believe science in regards to climate change when there are some red flags in my thought process.

    1. The accuracy of measuring devices is not the same compared to 100 years ago.
    While discussing this at the home farm where there is both an old mercury thermometer and a new digital one and comparing results ...its easy to find half a degree difference.

    2. Mankind"s measurements are a millisecond in the whole scheme of things.

    3. Why does the local newscast always provide records for the day that go back 75 years. Seems odd that if it was this cold or warm on this day that long ago its pretty hard to find a warming or cooling trend.


    Just some thoughts for a saturday morning.

    But the question remains ....why is one science rammed down our throats as the gospel....and the other science that is proven ...ignored?
  • Oliver88
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 4688

    #2
    Whatever numbers fit the narrative to push an agenda will be used.

    The agenda clearly is bigger governments (especially at the U.N. level) and also a distribution of wealth beyween countries and from private sector to government.

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    • sumdumguy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 11967

      #3
      Originally posted by bucket View Post
      Been thinking ...imagine that..lol.

      So the science is clear about using methyl bromide is bad for the environment and really is ineffective against bugs we don't have below 5 degrees. And it doesn't work below that temperature. India ignores that science and can't be convinced to use another fumigant.

      On the other hand I am told to believe science in regards to climate change when there are some red flags in my thought process.

      1. The accuracy of measuring devices is not the same compared to 100 years ago.
      While discussing this at the home farm where there is both an old mercury thermometer and a new digital one and comparing results ...its easy to find half a degree difference.

      2. Mankind"s measurements are a millisecond in the whole scheme of things.

      3. Why does the local newscast always provide records for the day that go back 75 years. Seems odd that if it was this cold or warm on this day that long ago its pretty hard to find a warming or cooling trend.


      Just some thoughts for a saturday morning.

      But the question remains ....why is one science rammed down our throats as the gospel....and the other science that is proven ...ignored?

      Answer to Bucket: Because "science" has become a political tool to legitimize propaganda. Sort of reminds me of how some "cowboys" trick, coral and slaughter wild horses.

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      • GDR
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2016
        • 1659

        #4
        Follow the money!

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        • Guest

          #5
          Originally posted by bucket View Post
          Been thinking ...imagine that..lol.

          So the science is clear about using methyl bromide is bad for the environment and really is ineffective against bugs we don't have below 5 degrees. And it doesn't work below that temperature. India ignores that science and can't be convinced to use another fumigant.

          On the other hand I am told to believe science in regards to climate change when there are some red flags in my thought process.

          1. The accuracy of measuring devices is not the same compared to 100 years ago.
          While discussing this at the home farm where there is both an old mercury thermometer and a new digital one and comparing results ...its easy to find half a degree difference.

          2. Mankind"s measurements a
          re a millisecond in the whole scheme of things.

          3. Why does the local newscast always provide records for the day that go back 75 years. Seems odd that if it was this cold or warm on this day that long ago its pretty hard to find a warming or cooling trend.


          Just some thoughts for a saturday morning.
          Do not question the sheepherders/scammers

          But the question remains ....why is one science rammed down our throats as the gospel....and the other science that is proven ...ignored?
          Do not question the sheepherder/scammers
          And musn’t use the word mankind !

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          • grassfarmer
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2002
            • 9734

            #6
            Originally posted by bucket View Post
            Been thinking ...imagine that..lol.

            So the science is clear about using methyl bromide is bad for the environment and really is ineffective against bugs we don't have below 5 degrees. And it doesn't work below that temperature. India ignores that science and can't be convinced to use another fumigant.

            On the other hand I am told to believe science in regards to climate change when there are some red flags in my thought process.

            1. The accuracy of measuring devices is not the same compared to 100 years ago.
            While discussing this at the home farm where there is both an old mercury thermometer and a new digital one and comparing results ...its easy to find half a degree difference.

            2. Mankind"s measurements are a millisecond in the whole scheme of things.

            3. Why does the local newscast always provide records for the day that go back 75 years. Seems odd that if it was this cold or warm on this day that long ago its pretty hard to find a warming or cooling trend.


            Just some thoughts for a saturday morning.

            But the question remains ....why is one science rammed down our throats as the gospel....and the other science that is proven ...ignored?
            1. The accuracy of measuring devices continues to improve no doubt. Unless you suspect the thermometers of 100 years ago consistently either under or over-estimated there is no issue.
            2. True enough but at the same time our human lifetimes are usually measured in spans of 90 years or less and so these are the time frames that our societies must deal with for their very survival.
            3. Entertainment - and only in North America from my experience. Never seen anyone claiming these represent climatic changes, nor could they as one day doesn't represent a trend.

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            • checking
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 2392

              #7
              It's like this fact.
              Scientists said for decades that the adelie penguin population in Antarctica was in decline due to climate change. Suddenly scientists find the decline with a 1.5 million super colony of the birds on an island chain off the continent. Apparently, climate change didn't affect the island chain, only the continent.

              At least scientists didn't hide the measurement. It just moved away from where they had been looking.

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