New land ownership rites bill ???

[furrowtickler]

Liberals apparently have a new bill ready for senate .
Anyone hear the details ?

[binthere]

More rites for indigenous input on resources etc.

[Oliver88]

Hopefully this isn’t an environmental boondoggle or one of Mr Dressups “gender neutral” new laws.

[Klause]

I'll leave this tidbit here.


Our titles are worthless. Land in Canada is worthless.

The Applicant had argued that notice would ensure that private landowners were aware that their interests were at risk. A declaration of Aboriginal title, it was argued, would be a judgement in rem, exercisable conclusively against non-parties, including private landowners.

The Court disagreed with the applicant, inferring that there would be no risk to the private land owners since the Cowichan Nation were not seeking to invalidate or render defective fee simple interests at that stage of the proceedings.15 The Court acknowledged that it is unclear what happens if there is a declaration of Aboriginal title to land held by private landowners but stated that the private landowners would have an opportunity to defend their interests at a later time if the Cowichan Nation, after receiving a declaration of Aboriginal title, sought to invalidate the fee simple titles.16

The Court's assertions reflect its examination of both Ahousaht Indian Band v. Canada (A.G.)17 and Willson v. British Columbia (A.G.)18, however both of those cases addressed conflicting Aboriginal rights, and not fee simple rights which derive their power from a Crown grant.

Additionally, the Court's assertion that private landowners would have a future opportunity to defend their fee simple interest seemed to conflict with the Court's quote of William v. Riverside Forest Products Ltd.:

"Any tenure holder's interest derives from the interest of British Columbia. If the plaintiff's aboriginal rights and title affect the title and interest of British Columbia, then the interests of tenure holders are also affected. If they have something less than what they bargained for, their remedy does not lie in joining this action to attack the interests of the plaintiff."19

The Court did not make clear how private landowners could "defend their interests" at a later date, if, as suggested by Williams, the finding of Aboriginal title by necessity impairs their interests.

The decision in Cowichan Tribes relies on the assumption that the Cowichan Nation can determine the content of Aboriginal title; the SCC has been clear that Aboriginal title is the exclusive right to use and occupy land.

[SASKFARMER3]

This is bad very bad for any one who owns any land.

The liberals under Trudeau took away rights and now under junior it’s getting worse.

But the silence from farmers is deafening.

[dalek]

“Property redistribution” is a hot topic of conversation in some corners of the Liberal party. Look for it to heat up if they get a second term. Gotta free up some of that crown land for the disadvantaged

[seldomseen]

It feels more and more like the best business decision for me would be to sell out while land still is some value in private ownership. If this bunch of crack pot Liberals gets another term its hard to say what might happen.
Just that stupid emotional bond to my land that won't let that happen.

[furrowtickler]

“Property redistribution” is a hot topic of conversation in some corners of the Liberal party. Look for it to heat up if they get a second term. Gotta free up some of that crown land for the disadvantaged

Yup

This is all part and parcel of the overall UN wealth redistribution plan . Liberals love this crap 💩

[15444]

Ontario Beef Farmers in all their wisdom have a major policy focus the last 4 years that is actually going ahead called Beef North. Idea was to free up 2000 acre chunks of Crown land in Northeast Ontario and hand over to enterprising young beef farmers. Got the notice that it's full steam ahead and the 'unofficial word' at a local board meeting was that the Natives have given their notice that any 'free land' is theirs. We had a good laugh over that one. Really throws a wrench into OBF's stupid plan which is just the icing on the cake for us locally, as we absolutely hate OBF.

[furrowtickler]

Ontario Beef Farmers in all their wisdom have a major policy focus the last 4 years that is actually going ahead called Beef North. Idea was to free up 2000 acre chunks of Crown land in Northeast Ontario and hand over to enterprising young beef farmers. Got the notice that it's full steam ahead and the 'unofficial word' at a local board meeting was that the Natives have given their notice that any 'free land' is theirs. We had a good laugh over that one. Really throws a wrench into OBF's stupid plan which is just the icing on the cake for us locally, as we absolutely hate OBF.

Hmmm , interesting. One larger grain farmer here packed er in to head to that frontier. He was running 12,000 ac or so , was up to 35,000 + ac at one time .
He may regret that move now .