Teachers with guns?

[Guest]

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Imagine if the Sergeant at Arms Kevin Vickers wasnt there to shoot the terrorist on parliment hill. The stat about how many lives he saved that day will never be listed because nobody knows.

Lucky it didn't happen with this administration, would probably get arrested for hurting a terrorist .

[samhill]

IDK, I have an opinion. I think armed guards in US schools may be the answer. In our schools we have 3
exit/entrances, so 3 guards would suffice. Only one door is open during class time.
I wouldn’t be against armed teachers if they wanted to be and be properly trained.
A little training goes a long way. I have had self defence training. It wouldn’t stop Jason Bourne, but it would give me an advantage over someone with no training. Also agree video games could have a harmful effect on some personalities, but don’t see how that can be controlled.
FWIW

[dmlfarmer]

Here is a voice that needs to be heard in this debate. He is a former marine, top notch shooter, and a teacher. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/opinion/sunday/marine-gun-classroom.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/opinion/sunday/marine-gun-classroom.html

[burnt]

Here is a voice that needs to be heard in this debate. He is a former marine, top notch shooter, and a teacher. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/opinion/sunday/marine-gun-classroom.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/opinion/sunday/marine-gun-classroom.html

A good article but, unfortunately, he actually includes factual errors and opinion.The first in completely counterproductive and the second is - well - opinion.

As has been said before, the US has a big underlying problem and until it is acknowledged and addressed, giving out more guns or taking them away is not going to make an iota of difference.

[dmlfarmer]

A good article but, unfortunately, he actually includes factual errors and opinion.The first in completely counterproductive and the second is - well - opinion.

As has been said before, the US has a big underlying problem and until it is acknowledged and addressed, giving out more guns or taking them away is not going to make an iota of difference.

Burnt, it was an opinion piece. It says so right at the top of the article. It is his opinion, and given his background I value his opinion on guns a lot more than yours.

As far as factual errors, do enlighten us as to what those errors are. It is easy to call someone a liar as you are doing, especially when you do not back up your attack by pointing out what he said was in error and what the real truth is. So what are the factual errors you claim is made.

[agstar77]

Yes, the answer is always more guns and there are more guns. Guess what ? There are more shootings.

[Sheepwheat]

Burnt, it was an opinion piece. It says so right at the top of the article. It is his opinion, and given his background I value his opinion on guns a lot more than yours.

As far as factual errors, do enlighten us as to what those errors are. It is easy to call someone a liar as you are doing, especially when you do not back up your attack by pointing out what he said was in error and what the real truth is. So what are the factual errors you claim is made.

He states things that ppl who fear guns lap up. Those of us who appreciate guns understand this. In fact he sounds surprisingly scared of guns considering who he says he is. Lol

[dmlfarmer]

He states things that ppl who fear guns lap up. Those of us who appreciate guns understand this. In fact he sounds surprisingly scared of guns considering who he says he is. Lol

So what? It is his opinion. As I pointed out it was an opinion piece. Is he not allowed to voice his opinion because it is different than yours.

Expressing an opinion does not automatically mean that opinion is factually incorrect. However, unless Burnt steps up and details the "factual errors" which Burnt claims the writer made, Burnt is the one who should be scrutinized for trying to mislead readers with misleading claims and opinions he is trying to disguise as fact.

[biglentil]

Yes, the answer is always more guns and there are more guns. Guess what ? There are more shootings.

Hmm tell that to some Mexican states that have 40 times the murder rate as US states with many times more guns and concealed carry. Infact US states with concealed carry all tend to have the lowest number of shootings, robberies and violent crimes. Proper backround vetting and a individual licensing program like we have here in Canada works well. Long term friends and family are interviewed to ensure the applicant is sane and responsible enough to own firearms. Its too bad the FBI and police did not act on all the information they had on this fellow. Thats a problem.

[samhill]

I would agree that some of the exmarine/teacher’s opinion are not sensible. But maybe guards and not teachers make more sense. In a school, short distance a hand gun in trained hands would be effective.
Police officers with hand guns miss, yes, but likely at distance targets. There are not many shootings at military institutions, but have been some.
I don’t like or want firearms in a school, hopefully a better solution is found, but mental illness is a fact, and innocents need protection. I agree assault weapons should be difficult to obtain. But citizens should have the right to firearms, b/c the bad guys will have them, and police protection is too late.