How many of you have actually read CETA...

[Klause]

Anyone?

[westernvicki]

Great question, who should have: ED's and directors of Ag associations have read the fine print.


Why do you ask?

[Klause]

Great question, who should have: ED's and directors of Ag associations have read the fine print.


Why do you ask?

Then how can we agree to sections 20.37 and 20.38...

[westernvicki]

Point made: what are they?

[bucket]

Uh....if it could be explained in layman's terms.

[grassfarmer]

You are coming to this late in the day Klause.

Excerpt from the NFUs submission to the House of Commons Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-food in December 2014

"Canada has agreed to bring in new IPR enforcement measures as part of the deal. To comply with CETA, Canada will have to amend our laws to ensure that IPR holders will be able to use the courts to seek injunctions against suspected infringers – such as a farmer accused of having a protected plant variety or a gene patented variety of seed -- before determining whether or not there was an actual violation.

Judges will be granted authority to order the seizure of assets, equipment and inventory of suspected infringers – even before the case is heard in court. In light of the Supreme Court’s 2004 Schmeiser decision which upholds patent infringement claims regardless of how the GMO seed in question got into a farmer’s field, this clause is chilling."

Funny how many are quick to criticize farm groups for their lack of action and lack of policy - maybe you are trusting the wrong farm groups to represent you?

[Klause]

You are coming to this late in the day Klause.

Excerpt from the NFUs submission to the House of Commons Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-food in December 2014

"Canada has agreed to bring in new IPR enforcement measures as part of the deal. To comply with CETA, Canada will have to amend our laws to ensure that IPR holders will be able to use the courts to seek injunctions against suspected infringers – such as a farmer accused of having a protected plant variety or a gene patented variety of seed -- before determining whether or not there was an actual violation.

Judges will be granted authority to order the seizure of assets, equipment and inventory of suspected infringers – even before the case is heard in court. In light of the Supreme Court’s 2004 Schmeiser decision which upholds patent infringement claims regardless of how the GMO seed in question got into a farmer’s field, this clause is chilling."

Funny how many are quick to criticize farm groups for their lack of action and lack of policy - maybe you are trusting the wrong farm groups to represent you?

Grass,


You realize I'm fortunate to call the person who did that submission, and fights for a lot of the IP and railways transport issues a good friend...


I knew this was in the agreement for a while... Just thought I'd be a shit disturber and see if anybody that cheers for these agreements has actually read them.


There's good and bad in all of them, but nobody seems to grasp the backdoor way companies are using trade agreements to modify our trade & copyright laws.


IP is one thing, but some of this stuff is retarded.