Anyone following this ?

[burnt]

You can hire anyone you want, just don't expect government funding if you don't allow the Canadians you hire the rights and freedoms set out in the Charter.

The rest of the discussion is a smokescreen.

So tweety is the judge on what constitutes fair discussion and what is merely smoke screen, LOLZ!

Answer the question tweety - DO you uphold the entire Charter rights of everyone, or just those whose point of view you share?

Your answer will show what you are - a fair person or a Liberal contortionist with no conscience.

Answer the question, tweety.

[Sheepwheat]

talk of freedom of religion.
believe what you want , but

it is quite simple, you just do not get funds if your views contradict the charter.
they are govt, funds not religious funds.

why do I want my tax dollars going to fund Christian or Islamic religions , that go against the
freedoms guaranteed by law

you should be happy islamist groups , in favor of stoning gays , gentile mutilation
will not get funding.

it is really not the role of govt. to fund any religion , little lone ones that disregard the charter.

it is bad enough , to have tax concessions for religions ,
where are my tax concessions for being non religious

Go online. Go through Canada summer jobs apply. Read the attestation, and tell me where the charter wording ends, and where the liberal wording begins. Wording that is not in the charter. Wording that liberals added, trying there best to make it look like they are charter words... go for it! Then get back to me.

I repeat. We signed off on the charter. We refused to sign the add on, the liberal portion. Big difference...

[burnt]

talk of freedom of religion.
believe what you want , but

it is quite simple, you just do not get funds if your views contradict the charter.
they are govt, funds not religious funds.

why do I want my tax dollars going to fund Christian or Islamic religions , that go against the
freedoms guaranteed by law

you should be happy islamist groups , in favor of stoning gays , gentile mutilation
will not get funding.

it is really not the role of govt. to fund any religion , little lone ones that disregard the charter.

it is bad enough , to have tax concessions for religions ,
where are my tax concessions for being non religious

sawfly, I will put the same question to you as I did to tweety - DO you support the entire Charter rights for everyone?

Also, have you protested sock boy's massive contribution to the Aga Khan's treasury?

[tweety]

Go online. Go through Canada summer jobs apply. Read the attestation, and tell me where the charter wording ends, and where the liberal wording begins. Wording that is not in the charter. Wording that liberals added, trying there best to make it look like they are charter words... go for it! Then get back to me.

I repeat. We signed off on the charter. We refused to sign the add on, the liberal portion. Big difference...

Because it doesn't need to be in the charter. That was the supreme court decision vs Morgantaler who said it was unnecessary to be in the charter. That the Morgentaler law banning abortion was against the charter. Its not that abortion is an issue, the law against it is. There is no law "for" abortion.

Just like same sex, it was illegal to be gay - contrary to the charter. So now you can be gay and have the same rights as everyone else.

Much like abortion isn't specifically spelled out in your bible - yet you infer it.

http://www.morgentalerdecision.ca/charter-right-to-abortion/ http://www.morgentalerdecision.ca/charter-right-to-abortion/

Doesn't your MP have final say on funding? What did they say?

[Oliver88]

So tweety is the judge on what constitutes fair discussion and what is merely smoke screen, LOLZ!

Answer the question tweety - DO you uphold the entire Charter rights of everyone, or just those whose point of view you share?

Your answer will show what you are - a fair person or a Liberal contortionist with no conscience.

Answer the question, tweety.

Solid points and this is excactly why the rules Sock Boy added won't hold up in court......it is sad how political games are being played and good charity groups such as summer caps for kids or soup kitchens will lose out.

There might not be funding for the summer of 2018 for many who have morals that don't let them believe it's right to kill an unborn child but after a court challenge I suspect this to be a different story.

[tweety]

sawfly, I will put the same question to you as I did to tweety - DO you support the entire Charter rights for everyone?

I support the charter, yes. Like most Canadians, except the odd ones that feel they need to control everyone else's rights and freedoms.

I believe no one should be forced to live by what Burnt thinks is right, or me, but rather what the charter and law afford.

[sawfly1]

yes I support the charter.
as far as aga kahn , I do not know ,what that is about.

so why or how is trudeau giving money to him.

I do know however know that I am contributing to various religions ,
wither I like it or not. by virtue of the tax exemptions they and their members receive.

so why would I want to fund even more of their endeavours thru this program.
esp . if there views are contrary to the charter and my views .

the way around it. to change the charter , is to outbreed the competition .
out vote them
then you can create whatever religious state you want.
like iran , and impose the religion of your choice

[GDR]

Maybe we should all send our tax returns in with a check box that Trudummy has to check off that he supports and values the needs of the Ag and Oil industries and acknowledges that there is infact Canadian citizens living West of Ontario. That he will no longer pay terrorists, fund ISIS groups returning to Canada or pretend he is Robin Hood with our tax dollars or he won't get our funding.

[burnt]

.....
so why would I want to fund even more of their endeavours thru this program.
esp . if there views are contrary to the charter and my views .....

There you have it. Selective support for the Charter.

You cannot have it both ways, sawfly (and tweety). But you just wrote down for all to see that you do want it both ways based on what YOU believe.

[Klause]

I seriously don't know why you guys keep arguing with tweety. He's a troll, and arguing for effect to get others mad.


Which is why I rarely engage him unless i've had a scotch and am in a fighting mood. LOL.


I find it funny that religious organizations have to attest to gays and abortion... but not FGM (cutting girls' clitorises off).

Actually, we were going to remove the part of the citizenship guide that said it was illegal here.


Any time you start selectively enforcing laws... you end up with a dictatorship. It's a slippery slope down cultural marxism.