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    Elevator closure

    Do you guys think closing a 10000 tonne concrete makes sense?

    It's been in service less than some wooden elevators...

    Rail line runs parallel to the highway being rebuilt to secondary specs.....

    There is more to this but just starting the discussion. ...

    #2
    Originally posted by bucket View Post
    Do you guys think closing a 10000 tonne concrete makes sense?

    It's been in service less than some wooden elevators...

    Rail line runs parallel to the highway being rebuilt to secondary specs.....

    There is more to this but just starting the discussion. ...
    makes no sense to me from a business standpoint unless there is structural problems or lack of area production.

    from an ag policy standpoint, likely shouldn't be allowed, company that owns should have tax increases to their surrounding facilities to pay for increased truck traffic

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      #3
      We can become efficient, but how can we be competitive?

      They facility should be forced into the auction market. Destruction of infrastructure needs to be addressed. The squeeze put on by the grain shippers has to stop.

      If they are too old to be utilized, then a low cost legislative option to have rail sidings built would provide opportunity, options, price discovery and competition.

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        #4
        The company that owns it can't make a business case for it to expand to 112 cars that they should have done years ago.....

        And yet 35 miles further away G3 built a 40000 tonne facility....

        And at the end of the line at loreburn they have built to 120 cars and added cans....

        This facility was bought and paid for in the 90s.


        Haven't figured out how the competition bureau allowed one grain company to operate on this line....

        Government is oblivious ... but there should be a mechanism in place to avoid this since this goes back to the last rationalization. ...

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          #5
          Talked to some new entrants into the local market that are doing picked up at farm and trucking to states....

          Trucks are competitive to the states in the volumes they are doing....? ?????

          Good thing highways don't cost them in the form of permits....

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            #6
            Some very good points here.

            What ever happened to the old Cargill facility at Raymore.

            People think other nations are going to eat Canadian farmer's lunch.... well they just might as we destroy infrastructure that is better than what some of those emerging competitors have....

            That ****ing "dog in the manger" attitude needs to be outlawed. If you don't want it someone else might. Maybe some of these places should be considered essential for the long term well being of the Canadian Ag Industry.

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              #7
              Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
              Some very good points here.

              What ever happened to the old Cargill facility at Raymore.

              People think other nations are going to eat Canadian farmer's lunch.... well they just might as we destroy infrastructure that is better than what some of those emerging competitors have....

              That ****ing "dog in the manger" attitude needs to be outlawed. If you don't want it someone else might. Maybe some of these places should be considered essential for the long term well being of the Canadian Ag Industry.
              like an essential service , maybe ?

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                #8
                The Cargill elevator at Raymore is gone. Was too slow for commercial use as I understand but maybe would have been fine for a local producer.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 4GFarms View Post
                  The Cargill elevator at Raymore is gone. Was too slow for commercial use as I understand but maybe would have been fine for a local producer.
                  Hmmm..... what is the real cost of the closure? Instead of taking a day longer to load a train(what ever size the spot was) the highways will get pounded taking grain to the "faster" facility. What about a special crops processor? They could have used it for storage or bulk loading product.

                  Are efficiencies shared by all in the chain? Or do farmers have to spend more on custom hauling or fuel and wear and tear of their own trucks? Public purse to maintain highways? Local jobs.

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                    #10
                    Has the concrete south of Moose Jaw been destroyed yet? On a spur that was abandoned, no planning what so ever.

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                      #11
                      When Grain Act was modernized Sec 55 (1) should have been reworded to included rules for closing.

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                        #12
                        Ridiculous, does Mr Loewen still work for that Co. in some back room?

                        They are giving the business to G3 and don't even care.
                        They will get their head handed to them in Saskatoon too
                        Same size plant in Kamsack, Ituna, Waldron all doing 100,000 tonne/yr. Probably Luseland too.
                        Even Biggar's wooden plant puts through way more
                        Last edited by farming101; Jan 6, 2018, 22:33.

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                          #13
                          Trying to figure how the governments will ignore this....

                          Perfectly good facility....good rail ....and it's capacity is going to highway....

                          If anything the government would be money ahead by getting a new owner and simply the competition bureau shouldn't allowed a monopoly on that spur....

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                            #14
                            Well who handed all this power over to
                            These companies to do what ever they want in the first place? Rather than make a scene over licence plates for people
                            That are fixing the roads how about do things somthe roads don't need as much fixing? Where is our ag people?

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                              #15
                              Tad confused nothing unusual, who owns the elevator?

                              In NSW graincorp has sold old inefficient elevators to farmers or groups of farmers.

                              Glencore/vitterra here in SA will do no such thing would rather them rot than sell to farmers or other compeitiors

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