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    #16
    I gotta admit I'm a little conflicted on this one too. Morneau was one of the few (maybe the only) cabinet members who was there by merit. The balance were largely there to fill Truedumbs diversity goals - they had ovaries, or turbans, or coloured skin or ideally all of the above. Morneau by contrast had actually done something useful in his life. It appears however that either he is the unluckiest SOB in Ottawa or colossally stupid or has incredibly bad judgement. He's trying to pretend that the ethics commissioner told him not to use a blind trust but its pretty clear that she told him he didn't HAVE to use a blind trust. It was his judgement not to do so and it is pretty clear that was a great big ***** mistake. The only sympathy I have for him is an entry in Webster's, somewhere between shit and syphilis.

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      #17
      Here's the message its going to send to future politicians, Be a true leader and lead. Be a person of Good Moral character and ethics. Ask no more of the people who have put you in a position of trust than you are willing to give yourself. Accept your mistakes and be humble enough to admit them. Do not blame others when the choices were yours.

      Despite the fact that Bob is right there is no one even remote qualified to take this portfolio it doesn't excuse Morneaus blatant conflict of interest.
      Not only should he be replaced he likely should be charged!

      I for one expect better than we are getting no matter the political stripe what he tried to pull is not acceptable.

      Morneau I think its time for NeauMor.
      Last edited by mcfarms; Oct 21, 2017, 21:37.

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        #18
        I can't say there are too many politicians I like or trust. It's pretty easy to sit back and criticise but I sure wouldn't want to hold public office. And when the media decides to look for dirt on you they can take just about any life detail they find and turn it and twist it around to make you look like a real asshole.

        I've lived a pretty honest life but I'm sure someone could find something in my history to smear my reputation if they tried hard enough. I figure everyone's in that boat.

        Like already said at least he's had some bus experience, if he gets replaced might be by someone that lives in their parents basement and hasn't even ran a lemonade stand.

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          #19
          There's some good points made here...but.

          There's nothing wrong with becoming a public servant. But using the post for personal gain beyond the compensation??

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            #20
            Originally posted by GDR View Post
            I can't say there are too many politicians I like or trust. It's pretty easy to sit back and criticise but I sure wouldn't want to hold public office. And when the media decides to look for dirt on you they can take just about any life detail they find and turn it and twist it around to make you look like a real asshole.

            I've lived a pretty honest life but I'm sure someone could find something in my history to smear my reputation if they tried hard enough. I figure everyone's in that boat.

            Like already said at least he's had some bus experience, if he gets replaced might be by someone that lives in their parents basement and hasn't even ran a lemonade stand.

            Yeah, really, in an important position like that, we'd hate to end up with someone whose biggest contribution to life has been teaching drama part time...

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              #21
              Originally posted by burnt View Post
              Yeah, really, in an important position like that, we'd hate to end up with someone whose biggest contribution to life has been teaching drama part time...
              burnt , don't forget , also part time snow board instructor and part time bouncer , couldn't even hold a full time job

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                #22
                Originally posted by caseih View Post
                burnt , don't forget , also part time snow board instructor and part time bouncer , couldn't even hold a full time job
                So sorry - I really did sell him short, didn't I?

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                  #23
                  Billy boy is a compete moron. If he couldn’t see that calling business owners tax cheats was going to anger them then is as dumb as trudeau. We as farmers should be much harder on dishonest politicians like billy boy. Making his life easy isn’t helping anyone. I wouldn’t put much faith in his business skills. He got most of his money from his dad and wife anyways. He wouldn’t have a pot to piss in if it wasn’t for what was handend to him. He’s an entitled rich liberal pice of shit. He has earned everything coming his way.
                  Last edited by Casered; Oct 22, 2017, 08:25.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    Who is the hypocrite me, Morneau or all of us on Agriville ?

                    The only people who are beyond reproach are those who have never done anything to avoid taxes, who therefore have also never worked or created a job or owned a business. These are the very qualities of the people who want to take away from those of us who are productive to give to those who aren't, is that what we are encouraging?

                    I hate to say it but I'd rather have someone competent but lining their own pockets with a few millions in that position, Then someone completely inept stealing billions in the name of socialism. Which doesn't say much for the current state of affairs now does it?
                    What makes you think he’s compitent? From what I see a series of bad decisions and even worse public relations screams incompetent boob. He is a very dishonest politician and if you can’t see that spend an hour reading about him and you’ll see pretty quick what kind of slime Billy boy is made of. The worst kind of liberal elitist lying scum.

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                      #25
                      Applies to all of Hollywood too..."The worst kind of liberal elitist lying scum"

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                        #26
                        I think most of you misunderstood me. Yes, Morneau is obviously corrupt and crooked, even by the ridiculously low standards to which we hold Liberal politicians. But consider the alternatives. Is it safe to assume that this was the best of the bunch from which they had to choose to fill the finance minister position? The only Liberal MP who had any real life business experience, who has ever had to pay taxes? If this was the best choice, imagine who they might replace him with, likely someone who thinks like Turdeau, that budgets balance themselves, steal from the productive to reward the liberal voters type of attitude.

                        This probably says more about Liberal party members who select the candidates, and Liberal voters, that there is no one more honest and capable in the entire caucus. And how much of that is because hardworking tax paying business people don't want to expose themselves to this type of scrutiny for the meager compensation? ( the legal compensation that is, not the pocket padding that just happened)
                        Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Oct 22, 2017, 10:59.

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                          #27
                          You are likely correct.

                          Liberals are stocking up on fire extinguishers.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                            I think most of you misunderstood me. Yes, Morneau is obviously corrupt and crooked, even by the ridiculously low standards to which we hold Liberal politicians. But consider the alternatives. Is it safe to assume that this was the best of the bunch from which they had to choose to fill the finance minister position? The only Liberal MP who had any real life business experience, who has ever had to pay taxes? If this was the best choice, imagine who they might replace him with, likely someone who thinks like Turdeau, that budgets balance themselves, steal from the productive to reward the liberal voters type of attitude.

                            This probably says more about Liberal party members who select the candidates, and Liberal voters, that there is no one more honest and capable in the entire caucus. And how much of that is because hardworking tax paying business people don't want to expose themselves to this type of scrutiny for the meager compensation? ( the legal compensation that is, not the pocket padding that just happened)

                            To think it really matter who holds the title of finance minister is laughable. When the decision are being made by Trudeau’s liberals they are going to be bad financial decisions for canada. That has been proven with the last two years of reckless spending and grabbing for taxes like a crack addicted *****. We need to demand more from our politicians and not accept failure on fears it could be worse. I think billy boy is the worst finance minister I’ve seen in my lifetime.

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                              #29
                              I found it frustrating they way he responds to questions....


                              My question is did the average Canadian put 650000 per month in his pocket by using the influence morneau had.....
                              Last edited by bucket; Oct 24, 2017, 08:04.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by bucket View Post
                                I found it frustrating they way he responds to questions....


                                My question is did the average Canadian put 650000 per month in his pocket by using the influence morneau had.....
                                Bucket, excellent question. You could send that question to Pierre Polliver to ask the minister in the House.

                                Perhaps to be followed with the question - why are you punishing Canadian business people for imagined tax evasion?

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