Chucky ... bull shit , it's pure politics , Montreal Mayor doing backflips so he and Quebec can continue to get special kickbacks from their buddies blood oil from the Middle East . Open your eyes . That and the fact they do not want to see a red cent go back to western Canada but gladly take transfer payments . He was near laughing about this this . It has zero to do with economics . It's about maling sure we out west go back to being peasants and serve the east with more tax money . How can any sane person not see this ??
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Circular reasoning. Less pipe capacity less production so less pipe capacity needed...
Eastern Canada needs a million bbl a day. If we can ship it from Western Canada why the hell are we importing it????
Can easily up production by that much create jobs and create a trade surplus.
However environment idiots believe not using our oil and instead burning fuel in ships to bring the oil in from Saudi Arabia is better... Because they have better environment standards? LOL.
Chuck so you realize the rest of the world is laughing at us?
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They use the excuse of saving one seal or a polar bear in the environmental b/S and sprinkle in bad economic fairy dust to the Eco nuts . They want their cake and eat it too. And they will get it b/c JT will alow it , just like his dad ... er step dad .
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I think we need to face the reality that with the new forecasts for lower growth of oil sands production because of low prices, the Energy East pipeline is not needed, nor is a good investment even if it is good idea to be self sufficient and cut imports into eastern Canada. There is no need to build surplus pipeline capacity that won't pay for itself.
The opinion piece I posted from the CD Howe Institute says as much, along with the renewed interest in using the existing pipeline for natural gas.
It is a huge investment that may have never paid for itself.
All the other arguments are mostly political. I don't buy into the arguments that we are peasants in the west. Incomes especially in Alberta are higher.
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We may not be peasants yet , but look 👀 at what's going on .
Who funds that research you quote ??
May never pay for itself, really? Oil from the Middle East comes at at huge humanitarian cost . Think about that . It's called refugees .
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Chuck how could you not support a western industry that is here ready to go?
Tell me how you think it makes sense to bring that oil across the ocean when it's right here? It's so stupid not even funny. Even if it cost s bit more which it doesn't why not have more jobs here? They'll get the money anyway when we pay more taxes to the east right? Pretty lame to try justify bringing that oil over the ocean. Makes all that environment etc look even more like bullshit that it is.
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostI don't buy into the arguments that we are peasants in the west. Incomes especially in Alberta are higher.
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Originally posted by furrowtickler View PostChucky ... bull shit , it's pure politics , Montreal Mayor doing backflips so he and Quebec can continue to get special kickbacks from their buddies blood oil from the Middle East . Open your eyes . That and the fact they do not want to see a red cent go back to western Canada but gladly take transfer payments . He was near laughing about this this . It has zero to do with economics . It's about maling sure we out west go back to being peasants and serve the east with more tax money . How can any sane person not see this ??
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