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  • stonepicker
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 1217

    #11
    Some of those studies remind me of the u.n. declaring that roundup is a likely carcinigen. Glyfos may do this glyfos may cause that.Scientists looking to make a name for themselves i think. pretty suspect.

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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 21879

      #12
      They just need to deal with the root cause so to speak . No one wants to tackle the fusarium issue with a ten foot pole. They just want to promote band aids as in fungicides to mask the real problem .
      There many many variables in every disease issue , that's a given . But no one wants to address this from the ground level so to speak .
      I certainly don't have the answers by no means but certain signs make one think a little different.
      With all the high levels of all types of fusarium in wheat and now , again in peas , this needs to be at least looked at by the whole industry, and not just blame it on weather and aphenomices. Because that is not the case.
      As far as crop rotations, yes that can but issues worse - but not in all cases either
      One neighbour here grows wheat then peas , that's it , 2 year rotation . Never has a disease issue . Low input guy with very low use of glyphosate. Newguy , this is where you may be very correct .

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      • furrowtickler
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 21879

        #13
        That may very well be stonepicker . Maybe there is nothing to it at all but some of it is curious to say the least .

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        • farmaholic
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 17479

          #14
          Holistic approach.....

          Treat the cause not the symptoms.

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          • SASKFARMER3
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 14485

            #15
            Fussarium is a funny one. Last year every field got sprayed even a section that i know was to late and all had low fuzz. Year before did the same and the buggers found more than i wanted them find. But all was a three.
            Buddy who didn't spray fungicide had virtually none.

            We were wetter though.

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            • westernvicki
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 867

              #16
              Why organic wheat escaped fusarium last year - The Western Producer
              www.producer.com › News › Disease Control › Fusarium

              Is it tillage: organic uses tillage.
              Is it lower chemical use?

              Given the impact and the cost we should at the very least be curious enough to do the research?

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              • stonepicker
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 1217

                #17
                Varieties have a lot to do with fusarium levels, the farmers who grow go wht.,prosper, faller etc. will almost always have higher fus. levels. This past year was bad around here for fus., yet glenn wht. was good to very good. people are sitting on a lot of high fus. wht., but the better varieties are easy to move.

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                • furrowtickler
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 21879

                  #18
                  I hear what your saying SF . Your right fusarium seems to be a strange one .
                  We have had virtually zero fus in our hrsw and all our wheat was #1 last year . We are growing carberry and Brandon both sprayed with a calcium nutrient at early heading . But after talking with an agroligist who understands that that fusarium may be simply carrying over in the root system , and straw of the wheat and in the right conditions can proliferate in next years crop under the right conditions. You can have good wheat or fusarium in your wheat it does not seem to matter , its acting as the host for fusarium root rot that affects peas.
                  It is very interesting that one neighbor has one very good pea crop and one that has fusarium root rot infection . Both fields are virtually side by side. Same history of rotation, herbicides , fertility for 8 years .
                  There is only one difference, the good pea field had all the straw removed last fall. It was all baled right after in was combined . Both were pre harvested with round up . There is a huge difference now in those two pea crops. He is not a very high end fertility user but still grows good crops.
                  Another kinda strange thing is that all the pea fields in this local area with fusarium root rot are green peas on wheat stubble.
                  Seeding date not a factor. Rotation is , previous fertility seems to be, volume of straw seems to be and wether or not it the wheat was pre harvest with round up .
                  I was told 3 years ago that fusarium in wheat crops does not carry over into peas. Well I call B/S now.
                  We had wettish conditions at seeding but have had not much rain in June up till now.
                  It seems like a complicated puzzle but like any puzzle there are keys to figure it out.

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                  • biglentil
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 3261

                    #19
                    Glenn doesn't yield worth a shit gets fuzz 2 don't grow that crap. Like someone once told me there are way better varieties than Glenn. You'll go broke!

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                    • stonepicker
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 1217

                      #20
                      I like it.

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