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Fusarium and DON no problem for organics?

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  • sumdumguy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 12004

    Fusarium and DON no problem for organics?

    March 30, 2017 The Western Producer article quotes various organic producers. They claim that these diseases are not an issue for them. If Fusarium head blight is carried by wind, why would their crop not be affected same as fertilized, sprayed crops? Anybody know?
  • Daylate
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 588

    #2
    Talk about a wierd article. Too bad few have common sense in this world? Simple. It has zero of the conditions for the disease to spread and develop. Most organic ground has no "staying power" meaning, for one it has less organic material to keep the ground moist for conditions to persist in the ground. Second, crop is not lush, wind and sun can easily penetrate it and dry out the plants, causing very short dew periods.
    It's all a trade off. Do I want to grow a 20bu low DON or throw the kitchen sink at it, and hope for a 60bu and milling grade.

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    • sk_wheatking
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 898

      #3
      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
      March 30, 2017 The Western Producer article quotes various organic producers. They claim that these diseases are not an issue for them. If Fusarium head blight is carried by wind, why would their crop not be affected same as fertilized, sprayed crops? Anybody know?
      Because it's "organic". You can't tell me that some of these organic clowns aren't using chemical or fertilizer if they can get away with it. This has to be the most unregulated industry there is....take my word for it it's organic.....or my favourite...it's all natural

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      • the big wheel
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2017
        • 3860

        #4
        They aren't stupid like the rest of us. They don't use fungicides. At least not engineered ones I stopped killing the soil years ago not organic but use organic natural products. Takes a few years but once you get there way better crops less bills.

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        • farming101
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 3955

          #5
          A friend quit growing organic CPS wheat because fusarium got too bad. FWIW

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          • Klause
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 3644

            #6
            We aren't organic but we also don't mainstream it. Fusarium has never been a grading issue for us... So I believe it

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            • farmaholic
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 17483

              #7
              Anyone grow Glen spring wheat? Even spring wheat varieties have different "resistance" ratings. ....let alone between classes of wheat....and then there was durum!

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              • hobbyfrmr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3178

                #8
                Cue the circus music "da da dada lada da da dada lada "

                Don't do it. You will regret it. Why live in regret? Destroy your land, become the pariah of your esteemed farmer neighbors in your community. Pissy little crops, thistles flying all over on the neighbors, other farmers driving past trying to figure what the hell you planted and how many more crops like that before you go broke.
                Driving shitty old machinery because you cant cash flow anything modern. Hours and hours in the tractor doing summerfallow instead of relaxing with your children and family at the lake. No scientific evidence to confirm your actions, no agronomists to help you. I heard that Input Capital Corp is going to provide an organic streaming option for the more progressive organic farmers.
                Last edited by hobbyfrmr; May 12, 2017, 16:46.

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                • hobbyfrmr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3178

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hobbyfrmr View Post
                  Cue the circus music "da da dada lada da da dada lada "

                  Don't do it. You will regret it. Why live in regret? Destroy your land, become the pariah of your esteemed farmer neighbors in your community. Pissy little crops, thistles flying all over on the neighbors, other farmers driving past trying to figure what the hell you planted and how many more crops like that before you go broke.
                  Driving shitty old machinery because you cant cash flow anything modern. Hours and hours in the tractor doing summerfallow instead of relaxing with your children and family at the lake. No scientific evidence to confirm your actions, no agronomists to help you. I heard that Input Capital Corp is going to provide an organic streaming option for the more progressive organic farmers.
                  Wait for the us/canada housing/debt bubble to burst. Organic prices will really go for shit. With decades of big crops under your belt you will be fimancially sound to buy out the organic clowns for a severe discount. They might even pay you to clean up their land so it might be appealing enough to try and sell.

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                  • ColevilleH2S
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1651

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Klause View Post
                    We aren't organic but we also don't mainstream it. Fusarium has never been a grading issue for us... So I believe it
                    What does he mean by, mainstream it?

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