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  • bgmb
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1645

    #11
    Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
    Dr. Scott Walker is your best resource for trial data. Call Carlisle Liquid Starters in Carroll, MB.
    Never a good sign when I have to call a company selling the product to access data.

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    • bgmb
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 1645

      #12
      Originally posted by bgmb View Post
      Never a good sign when I have to call a company selling the product to access data.
      googles "dr. scott walker agriculture" nothing......

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      • bgmb
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1645

        #13
        Has anyone heard Dr. Don Flaten give his opinion on this stuff? Now there is a credible soil scientist who is most definitely not in the pocket of anyone.

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        • Braveheart
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2001
          • 3257

          #14
          Don Flaten can't be trusted on any data. He's usually an NDP schill at least when it comes to phosphorus and Lake Winnipeg and farming.

          FYI we use Lignohumate and see a return. The investment is small and greatly enhances phosynthesis, root development and even speeds maturity. We use it foliar at .5- .75 L/acre. Most of our soils are a ph of 7.5 - 7.7. There is no benefit on lower ph soil. We have a quarter that is a ph of 5 and we don't use it there.

          We currently apply foliar. Canola plants get real excited with humane applied at bolting.

          That's my take, my advice is try a bit yourself to see. Leave a check if you want. The investment is small. Don't let sourpuss Tweety dissuade you from giving it a chance. As far as scientists, I've met very few I'd give the time of day to, especially Don Flaten.

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          • dmlfarmer
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 1814

            #15
            Originally posted by bgmb View Post
            googles "dr. scott walker agriculture" nothing......
            I too wanted to learn more of this person's research/trials and like you could not find a Dr. Scott Walker.
            Did however find a D. Scott Walker of Manitoba who has a consulting firm. I note this person does not have a doctorate, rather a 2 year diploma in Horticulture from Ontario College.

            [URL="https://www.linkedin.com/in/d-scott-walker-88151a20/"][/URL]

            Also note he is a "Licensed agent of Lignohumate® Technology"

            Not exactly unbiased if this it the Dr. Walker we are to learn from.

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            • bgmb
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 1645

              #16
              Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
              Don Flaten can't be trusted on any data. He's usually an NDP schill at least when it comes to phosphorus and Lake Winnipeg and farming.

              FYI we use Lignohumate and see a return. The investment is small and greatly enhances phosynthesis, root development and even speeds maturity. We use it foliar at .5- .75 L/acre. Most of our soils are a ph of 7.5 - 7.7. There is no benefit on lower ph soil. We have a quarter that is a ph of 5 and we don't use it there.

              We currently apply foliar. Canola plants get real excited with humane applied at bolting.

              That's my take, my advice is try a bit yourself to see. Leave a check if you want. The investment is small. Don't let sourpuss Tweety dissuade you from giving it a chance. As far as scientists, I've met very few I'd give the time of day to, especially Don Flaten.
              I would have to disagree on that. Strange mentality to trust companies selling products to you with no real data but you dont trust a soil scientist. To each his own. Yes academics are usually a little on the left side of the spectrum but that doesn't mean they aren't credible.

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              • bgmb
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1645

                #17
                Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                I too wanted to learn more of this person's research/trials and like you could not find a Dr. Scott Walker.
                Did however find a D. Scott Walker of Manitoba who has a consulting firm. I note this person does not have a doctorate, rather a 2 year diploma in Horticulture from Ontario College.

                [URL="https://www.linkedin.com/in/d-scott-walker-88151a20/"][/URL]

                Also note he is a "Licensed agent of Lignohumate® Technology"

                Not exactly unbiased if this it the Dr. Walker we are to learn from.
                braveheart this is a total ****ing joke. exactly what I was talking about, Company hires a guy off the street and tells you he is a researcher/scientist.

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                • bgmb
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1645

                  #18
                  i believe CLS was promoting http://www.bioagtive.com/index.php?p=0&action=news&newsID=1107
                  heavily at one time. can i say Credibility

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                  • stonepicker
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 1217

                    #19
                    The most credible experts are the farmers that have used the product, instead of complaining about the product, try the damn product yourself.

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                    • bgmb
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1645

                      #20
                      Originally posted by stonepicker View Post
                      The most credible experts are the farmers that have used the product, instead of complaining about the product, try the damn product yourself.
                      Sorry don't have time to run an experimental farm for every new product that comes out. This is why we have public funded research and producer checkoffs. This thread was very useful to me. Since nobody can produce any meaningful data this product will be filed in the sake oil drawer.

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